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Do You Edit Songs To Suit Your Own Tastes? - SH Forums
Some comments in a recent Floyd thread got me to wondering if I'm the one of the only people who does this.
They mentioned creating their own segues of songs (which I've played around with), but I'm talking full on editing...taking out parts, rearranging entire songs and so on and so forth.
Some may consider it sacrilege but I have no qualms.
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Well, the radio edit of "Whole Lotta Love" drops all the unnecessary trash in the middle, and then the drums kick in at exactly the right moment ...
So I don't consider it sacrilege if it improves the song!
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I mess with fade-ins and fade-outs on my own compilations.
So far I haven't done anything extreme, but I might later on.
I made my own single edit of Another Brick in the Wall.
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Quote: : Well, the radio edit of "Whole Lotta Love" drops all the unnecessary trash in the middle, and then the drums kick in at exactly the right moment ...
So I don't consider it sacrilege if it improves the song!
One man's trash is another man's treasure...especially if you're homeless.
I like that weird stuff, but it would be pretty cool to have that kind of edit too.
My local radio stations play the whole song, so I don't think I've heard that one before.
They have edited In the Evening (cut out part of the intro).
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I need to learn how to do this.
There are many songs I would like to chop off the ending.
They just go on way too long.
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I like Pink Floyd's "Echoes" except for the whole middle section with the sound effects, so I edit that section out.
Another is The Doors "Soft Parade".
I fade in right where Jim says "This is the best part", and I agree with him!
Lol
That whole beginning is just awful to me...
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I want to know how to get the extra parts of the long version of Dirty Deeds Done Dirty Cheap into the superior sound of the shorter Diament mastered version.
Anyone up to that?
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Quote: : I need to learn how to do this.
There are many songs I would like to chop off the ending.
They just go on way too long.
Try Nero Wave Editor.
It's fairly easy to use (IMO), and it has all kinds of other tools too.
I used it to "remaster" Pink Floyd's Cymbaline.
My version has a fairly consistent volume throughout the song instead of a soft beginning and that part where it gets really loud on the keyboard solo.
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I always felt Elvis Costello's Pads Paws and Claws was too short, so I pasted in an extra repetition of the bridge, the same trick as the Spector extension of I Me Mine.
I was pleased with the result.
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When making a comp CD, I usually edit out the first 4 mins of Pink Floyd's "Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I–V)".
I begin the song right where the guitar comes in.
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If I'm making a comp, I'll use Adobe Audition to create crossfades.
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I do it on occasion, if I see a real need to improve on a song, or to make a special "single" edit.
I've done:
I'm Your Captain/Closer To Home - Grand Funk Railroad
Beginnings - Chicago
Lido Shuffle - Boz Scaggs (I lengthened it)
I've recreated too many single edits to remember.
Well, one I had to do was "Disco Nights (Rock-Freak)" - GQ.
I use Audition.
Best and easiest software for the task.
The process was originally called "crossfading".
Technically, that can be true, as you crossfade the two edit points.
In Audition, you can tweak the crossfade by milliseconds.
Layman's terms are more like cut, paste, or delete.
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This is probably the most obscure song that might show up in the thread...
There's a song on the soundtrack to the musical film "Shock Treatment" called "Lullaby" that's all about going to sleep and "night night" EXCEPT for the first verse.
I cut out that verse and used the edit to close my 2-4 am college radio show every week.
I was quite proud of that.
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I remember doing an edit of Led Zep's Moby Dick in the early 90s at my college radio station cutting tape by hand!
It wasn't even for the radio, just to experiment a bit.
Wasn't there a website that streamed hit songs that were really super-edited down to their barest essentials?
Most of the songs were about 1-2 minutes long.
I read about it in Wired magazine a few years back and checked out the website once.
It was kind of amusing actually.
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I found it! Gotta love the search engine on Wired's website
http://www.radiosass.com/
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1...nackmusic.html
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I played around with making some edited versions of Queen tracks, based on the description of the single mixes from the now-defunct Queen Trainspotters Guide site.
It was fun practice editing, I know that much.
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NEVER ever...I let 'em roll out completely.
I also love the extended versions, alternates as well.
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Speaking of extended, at one point I made megamixes of the two Elvis remix singles:
1) stuck them together, first the radio edit, then the "original" track included, and then the "full" version
2) used audio from Elvis live albums (Live at Madison Square Garden, and The Alternate Aloha, if I remember correctly) to make intros and outros (simple crowd noise on the fadein, a "thank you" from Elvis and the band playing out on the outro
Worked fairly well but they turned out a bit long.
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Using Cubase, I put together a version of the Beach Boy's "Smile" stuff that's out there on the "Good Vibrations" box and "Smiley/Smile".
Crossfading, cutting and pasting.
That was a fun exercise.
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I've edited a lot of my favorite songs, but by editing I've often made them longer!
I added the bell sound to the beginning of Bike from the newest remaster of Piper.
I've taken those pesky left/right mixes on Rubber Soul/Revolver and centered them by doubling each channel and moving them to a more satisfying stereo mix.
I've spent way more time than I care to admit on Kinks tunes doing the same with some of the wonky stereo mixes, Stones too.
I also made my own SMiLE mix which ran approximately two hours!!
But my most satisfying edit was cutting the audience out of the beginning moments of Yessongs so that Firebird Suite starts right away.
Also, on Yessongs I did an edit I heard on freeform radio Fort Knox years ago -- the majestic opening of And You And I segues into the superior studio performance of the rest of the song.
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