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QED Poetry - Mvd fr. Billy's 'The River' to McCain's pick Palin
Carmela
1643 Posts
Posted - 08/27/2008 : 13:41:32
Quote: :
Originally posted by Ally Meath
I remember, Carm, when I rarely knew what you were saying.
Now it's like reading a language I'm mostly fluent in...
A May Zen!
If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
dearest Ali
this is no doubt the end result of us -- youz and may -- be 'free associatin'.
You get me yet i do not git me no longers.
take for example the word 'getaty'
i see i unscrewpoolously used it in another of Billy G's threads.
hmm
getaty
real getaty
any ideas?
i'm figuring it must be a basque cross between 'get at it' and tater tots on a sunny sunday morning.
a 'get' getaway perhaps.
and no doubt an embedded reference to Fitzgerald in the passive aggressive past tense.
(wait. gotta go google.
One sec. )
yes.
?
any takes?
free associatingly yours, dearest
:)
C
Ally Meath
USA
4137 Posts
Posted - 08/27/2008 : 16:51:22
Whoa, Carm, i can sympathize with your puzzlement, but if that don't beat all;
I too thought of 'gatsby', and hence Fitzgerald, and also of yummy tatey tots--not any wee kinder made of pahtaytas.
Are we freakily free-associating dopplegangers--shadowy clones >>>>
Which sounds doubly weird in the truest sense of the fateful word--as in wird, werd, wyrd, weorthan, werdan >>>>
And if so, we should collaborate and implode the universe (metaphorically speaking of course).
Ta-DA! If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
Carmela
1643 Posts
Posted - 08/28/2008 : 14:19:48
Quote: :
Originally posted by Ally Meath
Whoa, Carm, i can sympathize with your puzzlement, but if that don't beat all;
I too thought of 'gatsby', and hence Fitzgerald, and also of yummy tatey tots--not any wee kinder made of pahtaytas.
Are we freakily free-associating dopplegangers--shadowy clones >>>>
Which sounds doubly weird in the truest sense of the fateful word--as in wird, werd, wyrd, weorthan, werdan >>>>
And if so, we should collaborate and implode the universe (metaphorically speaking of course).
Ta-DA! ***
yes. but i'll go with literal for once.
I'm feelin quite risky today.
so i've always wanted to ask you this, Ali:
can you read minds????
LOL
seriously, can you?
C If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
Bobby
3826 Posts
Posted - 08/28/2008 : 18:44:41
so i've always wanted to ask you this, Ali:
can you read minds????
LOL
seriously, can you?
C
## apparently so, and from great distances
Carmela
1643 Posts
Posted - 08/28/2008 : 23:55:21
Quote: :
Originally posted by Bobby
so i've always wanted to ask you this, Ali:
can you read minds????
LOL
seriously, can you?
C
## apparently so, and from great distances
***
ah balby, you be pulleen my big leg?
ah balby balby.
you so fine.
you so fine you break my ?
spine.
oh balby
(hint for the FA challenged: look for e-spy spinoza in the spinached aisle)
?
or alternately, for the ex-saidrain on the platues of spain
?
help
ayudo!
some plantain?
Anyone?
carrab covered ants?
in the pants?
i shall shut up now
vigorously C
Ally Meath
USA
4137 Posts
Posted - 08/30/2008 : 12:13:21
In all seriousness, Carm, I don't know if it's truly possible to do that, read minds, maybe it is--but it has been suggested by people I'm close with--that I must have that ability--so perhaps--if the time/place/person/circumstance is ripe for it--perhaps yes--sometimes.
:) Ali
If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
Ally Meath
USA
4137 Posts
Posted - 08/30/2008 : 12:31:13
Bobby, I just read your mind.
People might be surprised--not me, of course, but some might.
:)
If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
Bobby
3826 Posts
Posted - 08/30/2008 : 20:01:39
it made me shudder even more than the thought of how freaking doomed we are
Carmela
1643 Posts
Posted - 08/31/2008 : 01:07:27
Quote: :
Originally posted by Bobby
it made me shudder even more than the thought of how freaking doomed we are
***
ah.
Z potential i see in zat word (shudder) is amazing.
Ali -- i venture to ask what the circumference of your head was the day you were born?
not that this (size) is related in any was shape or farm to ones mind reading abilities
but
.
. .
well . . .
i am feeling rather speculative today
anything to get my mind off of other mind blowing things.
Such as mccain's pick for vp.
Out of the corner of my ear i hear a few of her most ardent convictions include .
. . anti-choice even in cases of rape, a member of the nation rifle association, a staunch proponent of teaching creationism in schools, narrowing the def.
Of marriage and taking away rights for gays, taking the position that global warming etc.
Is a fabrication, and lets see what else?
Well, that about does it for moi.
ah.
But she is a woman!
and she has taken on corruption!
ba f
sorry.
It just came out.
Could not hold it in.
ba f
i have a really stupid questin (seeing as i am stupid and ignorant) and seeing that i never did an amniocenteesis with any of my pregnancies .
.. but what is the purpose of doing this procedure to begin with?
i mean .
. . i forget all this stuff .
. .but if my moral/religious/eithical beliefs preclude me from terminating a pregnancy -- even in cases where my own life is endangered .
.. then why bother with this prodedure that, if i remember correctly, can itself terminate a pregnancy or should i say: destroy life?
Maybe i have the procedures mixed up?
surely i am inebriated
help
C
oh gosh.
Sorry for going off track/posting in the wrong forum/being a pain in the arse.
If i knew where and how to move this query, i would.
But seeing as i don't, i won't.
I shant? I shanty?
shalt?
Shall?
i must read the bible!!!!
Ally Meath
USA
4137 Posts
Posted - 08/31/2008 : 11:50:07
Posted - 08/31/2008 : 11:50:07
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Pin eh?
lol
hmmm.
I indulged in a pisco sour for breakfast.
So i'm seeing things mighty early.
Too early indeed.
veni vidi .
. . voodoo
um
where art thou (arrette arrette) my cooshon?
cushion?
No. . . .um . . .
Cochon
imp pale me
ah wee wee wee where was we?
oh yes.
Amnio.
pi . .. pi?
pi .
.. pet?
oh gosh. that is grissly as blueberry bonnets as pomme ..
. poem . . . tart?
shift.
Please shift. (t'art?
Tartan ion . . . dart man onions?)
anyone fallowing?
amino?
amigo acid?
oh right.
Supposed to be parlaying pole i tics.
wee wee wee
all the way?
maison .
.. amazon?
and i bleu and i bleu all le way homme
?
shut up!
stom
oink oink
(the ode diverged and I took both with broth?
ink ink
boink boink .
. .
veni . . .? veni vidi .
. . ? busygoth? knox knox?
Blink blink and the boxer shorts?)
i insist that you make me shut up!
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Never heard of her.
Anybody know if she was a State Rep.
Or Congressman? What's her voting record?
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Brett, I can't verify the source for this source---it's simply an e-mail sent to me, but perhaps a portion of it is accurate:
e-mail on Sara Palin (McCain's VP pick):
(VERY long But answers all your questions about "who is Palin?")
>
>Palin was born as Sarah Louise Heath in Sandpoint, Idaho, U.S.A., the
>Daughter of Charles and Sally (Sheeran) Heath.
The family moved to Alaska
>When Sarah was an infant.
Charles Heath was a popular science teacher, and
>Coached track.
The Heaths were avid outdoors enthusiasts;
Sarah and her
>Father would sometimes wake at 3 a.m.
To hunt moose before school, and the
>Family would regularly run 5k and 10k races.
Palin was the point guard and
>Captain for the Wasilla High School Warriors when they won the Alaska
>Small-school basketball championship in 1982;
She earned the nickname
>"Sarah
>Barracuda" because of her intense play.
She played the championship game
>Despite a stress fracture in her ankle, hitting a critical free throw in
>the
>Last seconds.
Palin, who was also the head of the school Fellowship of
>Christian Athletes, would lead the team in prayer before games.
In 1984,
>Palin was first runner-up in the Miss Alaska beauty pageant after winning
>The Miss Wasilla contest earlier that year, winning a scholarship to help
>Pay her way through college.
In the Wasilla pageant, she played the flute
>And also won Miss Congeniality.Details of Palin's personal life have
>Contributed to her political image.
She hunts, eats moose burgers, ice
>Fishes, rides snowmobiles, and owns a float plane.
>
>Palin holds a lifetime membership with the National Rifle Association.
She
>Admits that she used marijuana when it was legal in Alaska, but says that
>She did not like it.
Palin holds a bachelor's degree in journalism from
>the
>University of Idaho where she also minored in politics.
She briefly worked
>As a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations, while also
>Working as a commercial fisherman with her husband, Todd, her high school
>Sweetheart.
One summer when she was working on Todd's fishing boat, the
>boat
>Collided with a tender while she was holding onto the railing;
Palin broke
>Several fingers.
Outside the fishing season, Todd works for BP at an oil
>Field on the North Slope and is a champion snowmobiler, winning the
>2000-mile "Iron Dog" race four times.
The two eloped shortly after Palin
>Graduated college;
When they learned they needed witnesses for the civil
>Ceremony, they recruited two residents from the old-age home down the
>Street.
Todd is a Native Yup'ik Eskimo.
The Palin family lives in Wasilla,
>About 40 miles (64 km) north of Anchorage.
On September 11, 2007, the
>Palins' son Track joined the Army.
Eighteen years old at the time, he is
>the
>Eldest of Palin's five children.
Track now serves in an infantry brigade,
>And will be deployed to Iraq in September.
She also has three daughters,
>Bristol, 17, Willow, 13, and Piper, 7.
On April 18, 2008, Palin gave birth
>To her second son, Trig Paxson Van Palin, who has Down syndrome.
(Sarah
>Returned to the office three days after giving birth) Palin refused to let
>The results of pre-natal genetic testing change her decision to have the
>Baby.
"I'm looking at him right now, and I see perfection," Palin said.
>"Yeah, he has an extra chromosome.
I keep thinking, in our world, what is
>Normal and what is perfect?"
>
>Pre-gubernatorial political experience Palin served two terms on the
>Wasilla, Alaska City Council from 1992 to 1996.
In 1996, she challenged the
>Incumbent mayor, criticizing wasteful spending and high taxes.
The
>ex-mayor
>And sheriff tried to organize a recall campaign, but failed.
Palin kept
>her
>Campaign promises, reducing her own salary, as well as reducing property
>Taxes 60%.
She ran for reelection against the former mayor in 1999, winning
>By an even larger margin.
Palin was also elected president of the Alaska
>Conference of Mayors.
In 2002, Palin made an unsuccessful bid for
>Lieutenant Governor, coming in second to Loren Leman in a four-way race.
>After Frank Murkowski became governor (resigning his long-held U.S.
Senate
>Seat in mid-term), Palin interviewed to be his possible successor, but
>Murkowski appointed his daughter, then-Alaska State Representative Lisa
>Murkowski.
Then-Governor Murkowski appointed Palin Ethics Commissioner of
>The Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, where she served from 2003
>To 2004 -- until resigning in protest over what she called the "lack of
>Ethics" of fellow Alaskan Republican leaders, who ignored her
>whistleblowing
>Complaints of legal violations and conflicts of interest.
After she
>Resigned, she exposed the state Republican party's chairman, Randy
>Ruedrich,
>One of her fellow Oil & Gas commissioners (who was accused of doing work
>for
>The party on public time, and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive
>e-mail).
>Palin filed formal complaints against both Ruedrich and former Alaska
>Attorney General Gregg Renkes, who both resigned;
Ruedrich paid a record
>$12,000 fine.
Governorship Governor Palin with Alaska's At-large U.S.
>Representative Don YoungIn 2006, Palin, running on a clean-government
>campaign, executed an upset victory over then-Gov.
Murkowski in the
>Republican gubernatorial primary.
Despite the lack of support from party
>leaders and being outspent by her Democratic opponent, she went on to win
>the general election in November 2006, defeating former Governor Tony
>Knowles.
>
>Palin said in 2006 that education, public safety, and transportation would
>be three cornerstones of her administration.
When elected, Palin became the
>youngest governor in Alaskan history (42 years old upon taking office), and
>the first woman to be Alaska's governor.
Palin was also the first Alaskan
>governor born after Alaska achieved U.S.
Statehood. She was also the first
>Alaskan governor not to be inaugurated in Juneau, instead choosing to hold
>her inauguration ceremony in Fairbanks.
She took office on December 4,
>2006.Highlights of Governor Palin's tenure include a successful push for an
>ethics bill, and also shelving pork-barrel projects supported by fellow
>Republicans.
Palin successfully killed the Bridge to Nowhere project that
>had become a nationwide symbol of wasteful earmark spending.
"Alaska needs
>to be self-sufficient, she says, instead of relying heavily on 'federal
>dollars,' as the state does today."She has challenged the state's
>Republican
>leaders, helping to launch a campaign by Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell
>to
>unseat U.S.
Congressman Don Young and publicly challenging Senator Ted
>Stevens to come clean about the federal investigation into his financial
>dealings.
Palin supports holding occasional legislative sessions outside
>the
>state capital, and municipal revenue sharing to help local
>governments.[citation needed][edit] Energy policiesPalin's tenure is noted
>for her independence from big oil companies, while still promoting resource
>development.
Palin has also announced plans to create a new sub-cabinet
>group of advisors, to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas
>emissions within Alaska.
Shortly after taking office, Palin rescinded an
>appointment by Murkowski of his former chief of staff Jim Clark to the
>Alaska Natural Gas Development Authority, one of thirty-five appointments
>made by Murkowski in the last hour of his administration that she reversed.
>Clark later pled guilty to conspiring with a defunct oil-field-services
>company to channel money into Frank Murkowski's re-election campaign.
In
>March 2007, Palin presented the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act (AGIA) as the
>new legal vehicle for building a natural gas pipeline from the state's
>North
>Slope.
Only one legislator, Representative Ralph Samuels, voted against
>the
>measure, and in June Palin signed it into law.
On January 5, 2008, Palin
>announced that a Canadian company, Transcanada, was the sole AGIA-compliant
>applicant.
In response to high oil and gas prices, and in response to the
>resulting state government budget surplus, Palin proposed giving Alaskans
>$100-a-month energy debit cards.
She also proposed providing grants to
>electrical utilities so that they would reduce customers' rates.
She
>subsequently dropped the debit card proposal, and in its place she proposed
>to send Alaskans $1,200 directly and eliminate the gas tax.
>
>Social issuesPalin is strongly pro-life and belongs to Feminists for Life.
>She opposes same-sex marriage;
But, she has stated that she has gay
>friends,
>and is receptive to gay and lesbian concerns about discrimination.
While
>the previous administration did not implement same-sex benefits, Palin
>complied with a state Supreme Court order and signed them into law.
She
>supported a democratic advisory vote from the public on whether there
>should
>be a constitutional amendment on the matter.
Alaska was one of the first
>U.S.
States to pass a constitutional ban on gay marriage, in 1998, along
>with Hawaii.
Palin's first veto was used to block legislation that would
>have barred the state from granting benefits to gay state employees and
>their partners.
In effect, her veto granted State of Alaska benefits to
>same-sex couples.
The veto occurred after Palin consulted with Alaska's
>attorney general on the constitutionality of the legislation.
Matanuska
>Maid Dairy closureWhen the Alaska Creamery Board recommended closing
>Matanuska Maid Dairy, an unprofitable state-owned business, Palin, citing
>concern for the impact on dairy farmers and the fact that the Dairy had
>just
>received $600,000 in state money, objected.
When Palin learned that only
>the
>Board of Agriculture and Conservation could appoint Creamery Board members,
>she simply replaced the entire membership of the Board of Agriculture and
>Conservation.
The new board, led by businesswoman Kristan Cole, reversed
>the decision to close.
The new board approved milk price increases offered
>by the dairy in an attempt to control fiscal losses, even though that milk
>from Washington was already offered in Alaskan stores at lower prices.
In
>the end, the dairy was forced to close, and the state tried to sell the
>assets to pay off its debts, but received no bids.
>
>In the first days of her administration, Palin followed through on a
>campaign promise to sell the Westwind II jet purchased (on a state
>government credit account) by the Murkowski administration.
The state
>placed
>the jet for sale on eBay three times.
In August 2007, the jet was sold for
>$2.7 million.
Shortly after becoming governor, Palin canceled an 11-mile
>(18-kilometer) gravel road outside of Juneau to a mine.
This reversed a
>decision made in the closing days or hours of the Murkowski Administration.
>In June 2007, Palin signed into law the largest operating budget in
>Alaska's
>history ($6.6 billion).
At the same time, she used her veto power to make
>the second-largest cuts of the construction budget in state history.
The
>US$237 million in cuts represented over 300 local projects, and reduced the
>construction budget to nearly US$1.6 billion.
>
>Commissioner dismissal.
On July 11, 2008, Governor Palin dismissed Walter
>Monegan as Commissioner of Public Safety, and instead offered him a
>position
>as executive director of the state Alcoholic Beverage Control Board, which
>he subsequently turned down.
Monegan allleged shortly after his dismissal
>that it may have been partly due to his reluctance to fire an Alaska State
>Trooper, Mike Wooten, who had been involved in a divorce and child custody
>battle with Palin's sister, Molly McCann.
In 2006, before Palin was
>governor, Wooten was briefly suspended for ten days for threatening to kill
>McCann's (and Palin's) father, tasering his 11-year-old stepson, and
>violations of the game laws.
After a union protest, the suspension was
>reduced to five days.[47]Governor Palin asserts that her dismissal of
>Monegan was unrelated to the fact that he had not fired Wooten, and asserts
>that Monegan was instead dismissed for not adequately filling state trooper
>vacancies, and because he "did not turn out to be a team player on
>budgeting
>issues." Palin acknowledges that a member of her administration, Frank
>Bailey, did contact the Department of Public Safety regarding Wooten, but
>both Palin and Bailey say that happened without her knowledge and was
>unrelated to her dismissal of Monegan.
Bailey was put on leave for two
>months for acting outside the scope of his authority as the Director of
>Boards and Commissions.In response to Palin's statement that she had
>nothing
>to hide, in August 2008 the Alaska Legislature hired Steve Branchflower to
>investigate Palin and her staff for possible abuse of power surrounding the
>dismissal, though lawmakers acknowledge that "Monegan and other
>commissioners serve at will, meaning they can be fired by Palin at any
>time." The investigation is being overseen by Democratic State Senator
>Hollis French, who says that the Palin administration has been cooperating,
>and so subpoenas are unnecessary.
The Palin administration itself was the
>first to release an audiotape of Bailey making inquiries about the status
>of
>the Wooten investigation.
Wooten and the police union alleged that the
>governor had improperly released his employment files in his divorce case.
>However, McCann's attorney released a signed waiver from Wooten
>demonstrating that Wooten had authorized the release of his files through
>normal discovery procedures.
High approval ratingsIn July 2007, Palin had
>an approval rating often in the 90s.
>
>A poll published by Hays Research on July 28, 2008 showed Palin's approval
>rating at 80%.
Fred Barnes praised Palin as a "politician of eye-popping
>integrity" and referred to her rise as "a great (and rare) story of how
>adherence to principle-especially to transparency and accountability in
>government-can produce political success."Vice-presidential prospects Main
>article: Republican Party (United States) vice presidential candidates,
>2008Palin has been rumored as a candidate for the vice-presidency with
>Republican presumptive nominee Senator John McCain in the 2008 election.
>Due
>to her gender, youth, background in government reform, pro-life stance,
>fiscal and social conservatism, and an approval rating in Alaska generally
>in the range of 80 to 90 percent, Palin could become the second female
>vice-presidential nominee of a major party.
Palin is supported by a
>community of online groups.
On Friday, August 29, Fox & Friends reported
>that Palin's family departed hastily from Anchorage, Alaska aboard a
>Gulfstream jet that landed near Dayton, Ohio, site of McCain's planned vice
>presidential announcement.
They cited the website Change&Experience.com,
>which also had correctly leaked travel details for Sen.
Joseph Biden to
>Springfield, Illinois for Barack Obama's announcement.
>
If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
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Oh. Just read this in the news:
Sarah Palin's 17 year-old daughter, Bristol, is 5 months pregnant.
I can hear the jokes from Brits on the 'bristol' aspect.
Anyway, Bristol is proudly keeping her baby and marrying the father.
Sarah and Todd (parents) said they are *proud of Bristol's decision and *proud to be becoming grandparents.
They've also (yak-yak) requested that the 'media' respect Bristol's privacy.
Sooo, by my 'rithmatic, Sarah Palin will herself be the mother of an 8 month-old son with Down sp?
Syndrome, when her teen-aged daughter gives birth to her first grandchild.
Hey, but they're one big, happy family, procreating, breeding, that's all that matters.
Here's how dumb I was when I first heard it said that S.
Palin was a "Feminist For Life"....I blondely thought....well, duh, I'm not going to be a feminist just until I'm 30 years old, and then switch to being an anti-feminist.
DUHHH...FOR LIFE--as in PRO Life.
Yeah, well that's all fine and good--but I've always had this one little question: How can someone who is a die-hard conservative, Con-Choice as far as abortion goes--how can they then be Pro-War, (Palin's eldest son is being deployed to Iraq very shortly), or for the death penalty, etc.
?? I've always wondered how these folks rationalize that conflict to their coda?
If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
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Well thank you Ali for that info.
Much appreciated.
I unfortunately missed most of Obama's historic speech.
was it good?
I assume it was. guys got MLK cadence when he speaks.
He could almost be speaking jibberish and it'd sound good.
I think i heard him using the terms: 'pro-life' and maybe even god forbid!
'pro-abortion' in his interview with that religious dude a ways back.
Hipefully i misheard that though.
very disappointing.
To go along with those terms i mean.
i mean, i walk around telling people: "i'm pro-death" actually.
um
yah.
Good point Ali. how do they rationalize them convictions.
I dunno. but they do.
And they do it well (geez, wish I was as staunch and 'extreme' a defender of my convictions .
. .
and then the line: even if you disagree with (her) you gotta respect/commend her for SUCH strong convictions/positions.
well.
Actually. i don't.
now i'm gonna be really really cynical.
Back to this: Palin refused to let
>The results of pre-natal genetic testing change her decision to have the
>Baby.
i'm still puzzled a bit.
Lets see. timetable: this (the genetic testing i mean) would have occurred around the time of her first meeting with Mista Mccan?
Yes? no?
but if your convictions so strong you gonna be 'pro-life' then youz gonna be 'pro-life' all the way.
Yes? no? yes i figuring yesm.
(meaning even life of mother at risk we still 'pro-life' -- meaning life of the unborn over life of z madder).
Okay. and if truly pro-life, then why would one even do 'genetic testing' If there is nothing you could do/would do to abort that 'life'?
)
so see i gon really git it.
then of course the really insidious fact that she did amnio (as i understand it).
There is, as far as i remember, a chance (and not too small) that the amnio procedure itself (used to what?
To give what sort of info to the parents) could 'kill' that life in womb.
So, as I see it, that anin't a real true and bonifide 'pro-life' stance (someone who willingly consents to this procedure or someone who unwillingly/unknowingly undergoes this procedure .
. . where we going with this?
Oh no. don't. please.
Not the rape thing.
Counter rape thing.
Its that long pipette thing they do amnio with aint' it?
It be diong things to your brain).
Or is an amniocentesis mandated by law in alaska?
If not, any procedure that puts in jeopardy/ 'takes' the 'sanctity' of 'life' (the narrower definition of 'life' your convictions predicate), then you be the killer and taker of 'life.' and noffin else don matter unless you want to accept that the argument is a little bit more complicated than what you say it is.)
well.
I cannot think wid this blasted tube in the back ground.
But something don seem right.
Back to timing. why do the amnio to begin with?
Her age? so what .
. . pro life is pro life (otherwise don't have sex if your age makes you undergo a certain test that could kill 'life').
Anyway, cyncically speaking, the timing worked out mighty conventient -- to stick that one on her VP 'resume'.
a politician is always a politician.
Opportunism and all.
bla
Okay.
So how many of you think Obama wears a bullet proof vest at all times?
if i were Michelle Obama i'd be shitting major bricks.
I seen hatred.
I seen racism. and it is alive and well in this here country.
all i can say is .
. . if he don't win (obama, that is) i'm moving to canada
any other ideas?
bla
sorry.
I shat all over billy g-string's poem and now i gonz and done it here too.
well.
Back to thinking a bit.
Them images are killing me.
cariboo and all.
maybe i just saw the clip of palin shooting that rifle one time too many.
paff paff paff
three days after deliving the baby (with down's) she back at work.
so is her hubby taking care of the down's syndrome baby?
oh right.
They got moolah. enough to pay someone else to do that hard hard work (that will increase exponentially as the baby grows older).
god.
I'm so cynical.
another idiot dispelling platitudes about the private lives of others.
(me i mean)
i shall shut up.
now.
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Well, if you're too cynical, then so am i, and i don't know if that makes it okay or not, but at least you know someone else thinks similar thoughts.
I take your point about the amnio sp?
Testing, and i suppose my first thought was 'well, it would let them know what they were in for, if something showed wrong, what challenges they'd need to meet, and the child would need to meet, save up money, line up proper help/support (for those who can afford, etc.), all that stuff, plus ready themselves psychologically/emotionally--but you know what ?
I'd forgotten about the risk of amnio test to fetus--so yeah, unless that risk has gone way down...but still, you're totally gung-ho, right ?
So why take even the smallest chance ?, dunno...
I'm one of those wishy-washy types--a flip-flopper by today's political standards--i can usually be swayed (at least intellectually) to another person's viewpoint--if presented in a reasonable way--hard for me to think/look in such day/night, black/white terms.
I keep repeating the phrase "It's time for me to leave the planet", and sometimes I do feel that way.
And yes, Obama's speech was powerful and good.
After all the other speeches at the DNC were done, I kept saying "Now what the hell is that guy going to be able to say that will sound different, inspiring, etc., since all seemed to have been said and done to death, by himself and the others--but sure enough, he came through.
No matter what side of the fence you're on, if you're not a hateful person, you *have to at least give the man his due--he's making history and doing it with style and panache.
And he's remarkably smart--probably brilliant.
I'm okay with him being at the helm.
I am.
And yes, I can see it in their eyes--especially Michelle's, there's that fear of where the bullet (or whathaveyou) is coming from.
Poor lady, that's got to be tough.
She cried when Biden's video showed him riding the train to be with his kids after his first wife was killed in auto accident--I know she was thinking of their kids losing a father or mother or both.
Got to be rough. I think I see it (small flicker of fear) in his eyes a little--but not as clearly etched as in hers.
Even if the whole racism thing is 30-40 percent better these days--and I do think it's getting better--what diff does that really make ?
All it takes is 1 nutball with a gun and a grudge--or our own government armed with a nutball holding a gun and a grudge (oops, sorry, I should NOT have voiced that--slapped with label of Conspiracy Theory Screwball), well, you know what I'm saying.
Hope Barack isn't obliged to walk down the same path to martyrdom.
It would be better if he could stay here and do some of the work he's wanting to do.
Nice chatting with you.
G'nite.
Ali
If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
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Palin = nutcase. Her husband seems to have escaped much serious scrutiny, but he's nutty, too.
If I were McCan't, I'd hire a food taster.
That's one ambitious, unscrupulous woman.
noi
"I aim to misbehave."-- Malcolm Reynolds
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"If I were McCan't, I'd hire a food taster."
Seems an oddly excessive joke to make about someone no one had heard of until a couple days ago.
Just out of curiosity, what would Ms Palin gain by poisoning McCain?
You think she'd be heir-presumptive to the Republican Party?
Perhaps your joke is predicated on the assumption she and McCain will win in November.
That seems to impute to her an unlikely efficacy.
RHE
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I definitely have the same questions as ms meath regarding ethical sets that allow for government-sanctioned killings of criminals and warriors, but insist on the prohibition of women guiltlessly taking charge of their own wombs.
That's the kind of blatant hypocritical thinking our country was founded on.
The path of true peace and prosperity is paved by the constant drive to eliminate hypocrisy from our government as well as our personal lives.
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Craol, yes, it looks like someone didn't do his homework very well.
Personally, I'm betting that the Republicans have welcomed the advent of these hurricanes--that way they can blame their lackluster performance/turnout on something outside of themselves.
Well said, James.
McCan't?
Love it, Richard.
Hadn't heard that one.
If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
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It wasn't mine. Neither was I endorsing it.
I was quoting Carol.
RHE
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Oh. Whoops. Mis-can't.
Apology to both you and Carol.
I see now as I reread Carol's post, the McCan't spear was used by herself.
Good one. I will endorse it--and use it.
If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
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Quote: :Originally posted by Ally Meath
well, if you're too cynical, then so am i, and i don't know if that makes it okay or not, but at least you know someone else thinks similar thoughts.
I take your point about the amnio sp?
Testing, and i suppose my first thought was 'well, it would let them know what they were in for, if something showed wrong, what challenges they'd need to meet, and the child would need to meet, save up money, line up proper help/support (for those who can afford, etc.), all that stuff, plus ready themselves psychologically/emotionally--but you know what ?
I'd forgotten about the risk of amnio test to fetus--so yeah, unless that risk has gone way down...but still, you're totally gung-ho, right ?
So why take even the smallest chance ?, dunno...
I'm one of those wishy-washy types--a flip-flopper by today's political standards--i can usually be swayed (at least intellectually) to another person's viewpoint--if presented in a reasonable way--hard for me to think/look in such day/night, black/white terms.
I keep repeating the phrase "It's time for me to leave the planet", and sometimes I do feel that way.
And yes, Obama's speech was powerful and good.
After all the other speeches at the DNC were done, I kept saying "Now what the hell is that guy going to be able to say that will sound different, inspiring, etc., since all seemed to have been said and done to death, by himself and the others--but sure enough, he came through.
No matter what side of the fence you're on, if you're not a hateful person, you *have to at least give the man his due--he's making history and doing it with style and panache.
And he's remarkably smart--probably brilliant.
I'm okay with him being at the helm.
I am.
And yes, I can see it in their eyes--especially Michelle's, there's that fear of where the bullet (or whathaveyou) is coming from.
Poor lady, that's got to be tough.
She cried when Biden's video showed him riding the train to be with his kids after his first wife was killed in auto accident--I know she was thinking of their kids losing a father or mother or both.
Got to be rough. I think I see it (small flicker of fear) in his eyes a little--but not as clearly etched as in hers.
Even if the whole racism thing is 30-40 percent better these days--and I do think it's getting better--what diff does that really make ?
All it takes is 1 nutball with a gun and a grudge--or our own government armed with a nutball holding a gun and a grudge (oops, sorry, I should NOT have voiced that--slapped with label of Conspiracy Theory Screwball), well, you know what I'm saying.
Hope Barack isn't obliged to walk down the same path to martyrdom.
It would be better if he could stay here and do some of the work he's wanting to do.
Nice chatting with you.
G'nite.
Ali ****
nice chatting with you 2.
i'm not following the polls.
i cannot fathom a 'republican' winning after the 'am-bush' years.
but then again.
The dems seem to mess things up even when they get it handed to them on a silver platter.
it all comes down to the payples.
hm
C If he had never esteemed my opinion before, he would have thought highly of me then (Jane Austen).
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Quote: :Originally posted by RHEpstein
"If I were McCan't, I'd hire a food taster."
Seems an oddly excessive joke to make about someone no one had heard of until a couple days ago.
Just out of curiosity, what would Ms Palin gain by poisoning McCain?
You think she'd be heir-presumptive to the Republican Party?
Perhaps your joke is predicated on the assumption she and McCain will win in November.
That seems to impute to her an unlikely efficacy.
RHE
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Palin appears to have no voting record--all I could find was that she went from Mayor to Governor.
I wonder if that fact--no voting record--was a variable in the equation the McCain campaign used to choose her.
I'm certainly not anti-republican or anti-democrat for that matter, but it has a little whiff to it.
Biden appears firmly on the side of pro-rights.
I like that, but ol' silver tongue is beginning to get on my nerves a little.
If he reacted to media pressure regarding his apparent lack of "International experience", and used that as criteria to pick Biden, I'd be disappointed.
I'm hoping it's not true, but it too has an odor.
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