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Conservatives happier than liberals. This makes me sad :( - NeoGAF
Http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/...erthanliberals
Quote: : Individuals with conservative ideologies are happier than liberal-leaners, and new research pinpoints the reason: Conservatives rationalize social and economic inequalities.
Regardless of marital status, income or church attendance, right-wing individuals reported greater life satisfaction and well-being than left-wingers, the new study found.
Conservatives also scored highest on measures of rationalization, which gauge a person's tendency to justify, or explain away, inequalities.
The rationalization measure included statements such as: "It is not really that big a problem if some people have more of a chance in life than others," and "This country would be better off if we worried less about how equal people are."
To justify economic inequalities, a person could support the idea of meritocracy, in which people supposedly move up their economic status in society based on hard work and good performance.
In that way, one's social class attainment, whether upper, middle or lower, would be perceived as totally fair and justified.
If your beliefs don't justify gaps in status, you could be left frustrated and disheartened, according to the researchers, Jaime Napier and John Jost of New York University.
They conducted a U.S.-centric survey and a more internationally focused one to arrive at the findings.
"Our research suggests that inequality takes a greater psychological toll on liberals than on conservatives," the researchers write in the June issue of the journal Psychological Science, "apparently because liberals lack ideological rationalizations that would help them frame inequality in a positive (or at least neutral) light."
The results support and further explain a Pew Research Center survey from 2006, in which 47 percent of conservative Republicans in the U.S.
Described themselves as "very happy," while only 28 percent of liberal Democrats indicated such cheer.
The same rationalizing phenomena could apply to personal situations as well.
"There is no reason to think that the effects we have identified here are unique to economic forms of inequality," the researchers write.
"Research suggests that highly egalitarian women are less happy in their marriages compared with their more traditional counterparts, apparently because they are more troubled by disparities in domestic labor."
The current study was funded by the National Science Foundation.
Well I'll be.
Ignorance really is...ah....ah....I forget.
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Originally Posted by ronito: Well I'll be.
Ignorance really is...ah....ah....I forget.
Dammit ronito, you stole the best joke!
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The cognitive dissonance is strong with them.
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Not often will someone be "beaten" by the OP, but yeah ignorance is blah blah blah etc etc etc
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That's cuz libruls are a bunch of untalented malcontents who turn their depression into a political party.
That way the gov't will take care of them.
pull yourself up by your own bootstraps lazy!
Than you will be happy.
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I'm an objectivist, does that make me liberal or conservative?
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I'm not surprised.
This forum is teeming with some of the most miserable, malcontent people I've come in contact with.
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It's much easier to be content in your own self delusion.
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Originally Posted by Ulairi: I'm an objectivist, does that make me liberal or conservative?
That makes you a renegade who doesn't toe to a party line.
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Originally Posted by belvedere: It's much easier to be content in your own self delusion.
I'd say that's true of the majority of the posters with superiority complexes that post on this forum, don't you?
Yet they're a bunch of sad sacks.
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Originally Posted by ronito: Well I'll be.
Ignorance really is...ah....ah....I forget.
I laugh when people say things like that.
It's one of the most ignorant statements I've read in awhile.
If conservatives and liberals spent less time bashing each other, and more time actually talking out issues without getting mad (it's certainly possible, I've had some quite nice discussions in the past), then we might actually be able to reach some sort of middle ground on some things.
That aside, I've been a fairly large conservative my whole life.
I don't like gun control, I support the death penalty, I support the fair tax, I love tax cuts, I'd love to cut pork barrel spending, I'm anti-abortion, and I supported (notice the past tense) the war.
I've also been fairly miserable throughout most of it, partly because I understand there are reasons for many social injustices, and that makes it all the harder to change.
Granted, a lot of the reasons for the injustices we see in the world are pretty pathetic, but I still know why some exist.
Originally Posted by tnw: that's cuz libruls are a bunch of untalented malcontents who turn their depression into a political party.
pull yourself up by your own bootstraps lazy!
Than you will be happy.
Sigh.
You make half of us conservatives look bad every time you bite that flamebait.
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@ inequality = stress
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It's strange that conservatives are more indifferent to people's plight, but are far more willing to give to charity (than liberals).
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Quote: : "It is not really that big a problem if some people have more of a chance in life than others,"
The fuck?
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Originally Posted by Zilch: I'm not surprised.
This forum is teeming with some of the most miserable, malcontent people I've come in contact with.
i agree
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Ohh, fill me in. Conservative = old and bad, liberal = young and good?
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Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: It's strange that conservatives are more indifferent to people's plight, but are far more willing to give to charity (than liberals).
Not really. Since liberals think the government should fix everything.
Damn, no wonder they're all depressed.
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Originally Posted by Cyan: Not really.
Since liberals think the government should fix everything.
Damn, no wonder they're all depressed.
Considering the track record, yeah.
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Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: It's strange that conservatives are more indifferent to people's plight, but are far more willing to give to charity (than liberals).
Dude we had a whole thread about that.
Let's not get into tithe and all that.
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The SoCons spend so much time complaining about how other people live their lives, you'd think it might affect their happiness.
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Originally Posted by Ulairi: I'm an objectivist, does that make me liberal or conservative?
The OP seems to be talking about liberalism vs.
Conservatism on economic issues rather than social ones, so Objectivism means conservatism here.
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Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: It's strange that conservatives are more indifferent to people's plight, but are far more willing to give to charity (than liberals).
Is it really? Aren't conservatives more willing to think that charities do good, instead of liberals who think we need constant reform.
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"Joe six-pack" is too busy getting smashed to worry about anything and "Dick CEO" sleeps on baby corpses and wipes his ass with hundreds so it's really hard to shake his happiness.
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B-b-but NeoGAF owns all the latest gaming toys!
WHY ARE THEY NOT HAPPY CHARLOTTE?!
:( :( :(
Ha ha ha!
Suck it down librullll hippy scum.
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*shrug* I'm pretty damn happy.
Sure, I get the urge to punch people in the face all the time but I rent apartments to rich pricks in the West Village so you can't really blame me.
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They say ignorance is bliss.
EDIT: damn, beaten on the fucking op!!
:(
Originally Posted by ToxicAdam: It's strange that conservatives are more indifferent to people's plight, but are far more willing to give to charity (than liberals).
Tax cuts? conscience hurting?
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Originally Posted by commish: Ohh, fill me in.
Conservative = old and bad, liberal = young and good?
You can also add "internet tough guy" for conservatives.
Usually libertarians.
They don't wanna be associated with "pussy" liberals.
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Originally Posted by DKnight: Tax cuts?
Conscience hurting?
Bingo Bango.
hince, why they put a limit on how much someone can contribute.
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Originally Posted by Dali: "Joe six-pack" is too busy getting smashed to worry about anything and "Dick CEO" sleeps on baby corpses and wipes his ass with hundreds so it's really hard to shake his happiness.
Wow, Liberals are bitter
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Originally Posted by The Take Out Bandit: B-b-but NeoGAF owns all the latest gaming toys!
WHY ARE THEY NOT HAPPY CHARLOTTE?!
:( :( :(
Ha ha ha!
Suck it down librullll hippy scum.
Holy shit.
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Fucking sheep can always be pleased.
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When you have no conscience, it's easy to be happy!
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Originally Posted by blame space: Holy shit.
I'm just being a dick.
Honestly, both parties are failures;
And mankind should not have a say in how it is directed toward a better future.
Dictators for all!
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Originally Posted by Kung Fu Jedi: When you have no heart, it's easy to be happy!
Fixt
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Originally Posted by Liara T'Soni: Fucking sheep can always be pleased.
Originally Posted by Kung Fu Jedi: When you have no conscience, it's easy to be happy!
Can anyone pot that Bill O'Reily "youmad.gif"
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Originally Posted by avatar299: Wow, Liberals are bitter
In a world where good guys never win...that tends to happen.
I'm personally on the conservative path in hope of getting my R-card.
I tried killing some defenseless crippled animals but they told me it wasn't enough.
They said i need to kill a human...preferably ethnic.
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Originally Posted by Sol..: In a world where good guys never win...that tends to happen.
Who are these good guys?
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I'd like to see this poll done back in the 90s and see if things were any different.
It's possible people are a bit "happier" when their party/ideals are leading the nation.
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Assuming this study is right, which it probably isn't but anyway--for the sake of argument how is it 'ignorant' to have better adapted to the therapeutic mindset that leads to 'happiness' in the modern world?
Wouldn't it be more ignorant to chain your happiness to a immutable realities of the human condition, i.e.
We are not all alike and some form of alienation from society is inevitable?
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Originally Posted by avatar299: Is it really?
Aren't conservatives more willing to think that charities do good, instead of liberals who think we need constant reform.
Liberals are more likely to think charities are corrupt, and consequently not give to them, yes.
(Which does nothing to make them happier)
Originally Posted by ronito: Dude we had a whole thread about that.
Let's not get into tithe and all that.
It's not just tithing, they give more to charity outside of their religious institutions as well.
They give more to secular charities than secular people.
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Originally Posted by worldrunover: I'd like to see this poll done back in the 90s and see if things were any different.
It's possible people are a bit "happier" when their party/ideals are leading the nation.
Obviously. When Obama wins Liberals will be estactic and all the doom and gloom, America will be destroyed, blah blah blah crap will be gone.
Conservatives have been "winning", so they feel happy.
This is common sense.
The idea that this makes conservatives ignorant or heartless is why i hate Liberals.
Originally Posted by saelz8: Liberals are more likely to think charities are corrupt, and consequently not give to them, yes.
(Which does nothing to make them happier) But the government can never be?
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Originally Posted by avatar299: Can anyone pot that Bill O'Reily "youmad.gif"
You don't know much about me or my political views, do you?
;)
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Originally Posted by Guileless: Assuming this study is right, which it probably isn't but anyway--for the sake of argument how is it 'ignorant' to have better adapted to the therapeutic mindset that leads to 'happiness' in the modern world?
Wouldn't it be more ignorant to chain your happiness to a immutable realities of the human condition, i.e.
We are not all alike and some form of alienation from society is inevitable?
You call turning a blind eye to inequality and other problems of world therapeutic.
Others would call it willful ignorance.
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Originally Posted by avatar299: Who are these good guys?
word
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Originally Posted by Kung Fu Jedi: You don't know much about me or my political views, do you?
;) I know you are a jedi.
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Originally Posted by ronito: You call turning a blind eye to inequality and other problems of world therapeutic.
Others would call it willful ignorance.
I've got my own life to live pal.
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Originally Posted by ronito: http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/...erthanliberals
Well I'll be.
Ignorance really is...ah....ah....I forget.
It's not that I don't care, it's that I can only practically afford my own well-being!
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Originally Posted by eznark: I've got my own life to live pal.
Perfect example.
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Originally Posted by Ulairi: I'm an objectivist, does that make me liberal or conservative?
That makes you a free thinker, and in GAF OT, public enemy #1.
Quote: : Perfect example.
thank you
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