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Trash Left By Illegals Costing U.S. Taxpayers Millions $$$ - Investor's Iraq Forum
Groups Struggle to Clean Up Mess Illegal Immigrants Leave Behind
Wednesday, May 07, 2008
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June 2007: A lay-up area found in the Arizona desert littered with debris.
The latest battle in the war on illegal immigration isn't over the smuggling of undocumented workers, it's over the trash they leave behind.
Government officials and border activists say the garbage dumped in the desert by illegal immigrants and their smugglers is staggering.
And the cleanup is costing taxpayers millions.
In 2006 alone, more than 1.18 million pounds of trash was collected along southern Arizona border, many in the meeting spots where immigrants rest, change clothes and wait to hitch a ride further north with a smuggler.
"You can find everything," said Shela McFarlin, special assistant for international programs at the Arizona Bureau of Land Management.
"Blankets, airline tickets, Bibles, wedding pictures, photos of children, school reports, because clearly people don't tend to throw away everything they've brought with them they're forced to."
Arizonia officials have spent approximately $4.4 million over five years to clean up the mess, that continues to build with each crossing.
Nearly $1 million was spent for 2007 from a base BLM appropriation.
Border Patrol's Tucson sector, which covers most of the Arizona border, doesn't have statistics about how many people cross through each year, but on average, agents apprehend 1,500 people a day, with 378,000 undocumented immigrants caught in 2007 alone.
The trash is a problem that activist groups, like the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, say will not stop until the nation's southern border is secured.
"It's just like a flood," said Chris Simcox, the president of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.
"You can't clean up the floodwaters until you stop the flood and fix the dam."
Successful efforts by the Border Patrol to secure well-trafficked crossing spots in San Diego and El Paso have forced many immigrants to cross through federal and state lands along the Arizona border adding to the trash problem, McFarlin said.
Since 2003, the Arizona BLM has run a project to mitigate the damage caused by the migration of illegal immigrants along the state's border with Mexico.
Click here to read the BLM's latest report on the cleanup (PDF).
"What we're beginning to wonder is how extensive is the problem?" McFarlin said.
"How many millions of pounds of garbage?
How many roads are really damaged?
How many miles of illegal trails?"
McFarlin's agency works with local government, student volunteers and civic groups to bag trash in wilderness areas frequented by immigrants.
The BLM also disguises smuggling roads by planting new vegetation over the desert tracks carved by smugglers.
"The first thing you notice if you were to drive across some of this land is you see water bottles, lots of water bottles," McFarlin said.
"Where people stop to wait to be picked up we call them 'layup' spots then you will see more of the clothing, medicine bottles, papers, everything.
"We recently cleaned up one location with almost 4,000 backpacks left behind," she said.
Simcox said his group cleans up the private lands of ranchers who help them on their quest to monitor the border.
"We've seen it time and time again, where we go in and clean up these areas and within months they're just filled again with the same debris," Simcox said.
The Arizona BLM and the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps do not work together on cleanup efforts.
Both groups say it may take years to correct.
"Truly, it's a national disaster of our cherished outdoor areas," Simcox said.
Click here to read more about this story on MyFOXPhoenix.com
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It's a shame we cant just dump all that trash back in Mexico.
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I have a novel idea.
Maybe we should enforce existing hiring practice laws here in this country so that employers will be heavily fined and/or lose their business licenses if they knowingly hire or harbor illegal aliens.
Perhaps then the flow of illegals would decide it doesnt pay anymore to cross the border.
But since that is something that makes sense, our government wont stand for it.
Here's another idea.
Lets spend billions on a giant wall that they have to climb over or tunnel under.
That should slow them down by an hour or two.
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And we wonder why diseases like Tuberculosis and others are making a comeback to the US after being wiped out.
I saw a news video a month or so ago about drinking "glasses" in hotels shouldn't be used.
Turns out, the Sheridan in Denver (and others nationwide) had an undercover camera hidden in a room showed that the glasses don't usually get washed.
They showed the non english speaking women just wiping them out with a rag.
But sometimes they used glass cleaner.
It even showed one woman coming out from cleaning the toilet (with gloves still on), and then handling the glasses, using the same towel she wiped her gloves on, to clean the glasses.
http://consumerist.com/consumer/disg...ses-320053.php
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I think the reason they are leaving Mexico is because that county has a lot of major issues.
So now that they come here they are doing the same as they did in Mexico.
I guess they feel since Mexico has a lot of trash why not bring it to the USA.
I think they are lazy and won't rebel against their corrupt government.
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It can't be stopped
It can never be stopped
You Tube
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Quote: : I have a novel idea.
Maybe we should enforce existing hiring practice laws here in this country so that employers will be heavily fined and/or lose their business licenses if they knowingly hire or harbor illegal aliens.
Perhaps then the flow of illegals would decide it doesnt pay anymore to cross the border.
But since that is something that makes sense, our government wont stand for it.
Here's another idea.
Lets spend billions on a giant wall that they have to climb over or tunnel under.
That should slow them down by an hour or two.
We had an rep Oregon Senator (Gordon Smith) write a bill to do exactly that last October.
The bill would have taken away any employers' tax write offs for labor costs where ID could not be confirmed.
It would actually be self- policing at no enforcement cost.
The illegal population would become virtually unhirable because no one could afford to.
And of course, it was shot down.
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Quote: : I have a novel idea.
Maybe we should enforce existing hiring practice laws here in this country so that employers will be heavily fined and/or lose their business licenses if they knowingly hire or harbor illegal aliens.
Perhaps then the flow of illegals would decide it doesnt pay anymore to cross the border.
But since that is something that makes sense, our government wont stand for it.
Here's another idea.
Lets spend billions on a giant wall that they have to climb over or tunnel under.
That should slow them down by an hour or two.
Well, that law is working well here in Arizona.
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Quote: : It can't be stopped
It can never be stopped
You Tube
Tell Carlos to start by cleaning up their own mess.
They just want what their own UNMORAL UNETHICAL, Gov't has failed to develop over the last 100 years.
But then bring that same attitude to us until we have to stoop to their moral and ethical level to deal with them.
THEN THEY DON'T LIKE IT.
What a surprise.
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Quote: : It can't be stopped
It can never be stopped
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7qKD-Ph7ds
Classic Weeden!
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Quote: : Needs Mils We had an rep Oregon Senator (Gordon Smith) write a bill to do exactly that last October.
The bill would have taken away any employers' tax write offs for labor costs where ID could not be confirmed.
It would actually be self- policing at no enforcement cost.
The illegal population would become virtually unhirable because no one could afford to.
And of course, it was shot down.
Perhaps it's time for a new government.
Of course by the time that happens there will be another million or two illegals living in the US.
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[Quote: =geowhiz;620319]I have a novel idea.
Maybe we should enforce existing hiring practice laws here in this country so that employers will be heavily fined and/or lose their business licenses if they knowingly hire or harbor illegal aliens.
Perhaps then the flow of illegals would decide it doesnt pay anymore to cross the border.
Great idea !!
Geowhiz for president !!
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[Quote: =yunowu;620652] Quote: : I have a novel idea.
Maybe we should enforce existing hiring practice laws here in this country so that employers will be heavily fined and/or lose their business licenses if they knowingly hire or harbor illegal aliens.
Perhaps then the flow of illegals would decide it doesnt pay anymore to cross the border.
Great idea !!
Geowhiz for president !!
Thanks for the endorsement Rich!!
Yes I think Id make a great president, I practically wrote the book on various ways to waste a lot of money in a very short period of time.
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[Quote: =geowhiz;620662] Quote: :
Thanks for the endorsement Rich!!
Yes I think Id make a great president, I practically wrote the book on various ways to waste a lot of money in a very short period of time.
You are such a straight shooter !!
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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You all reallize I hope that a thread like this will bring the wrath of Carlos down on everyone who contributes a " NEGATIVE ROACH " opinion.
Go easy on them Carlos.
As you have proven ( ?
) already, they are misinformed and all their numbers are wrong.
Ronnie ( itchibon )
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Quote: :
Thanks for the endorsement Rich!!
Yes I think Id make a great president, I practically wrote the book on various ways to waste a lot of money in a very short period of time.
What would the Economy be like under a geowhiz presidency?
I think our budget deficits and/or surpluses would coincide quite nicely with the following economic events:
March madness
Super Bowl
NBA Playoffs
NFL Playoffs
College Football Season
New Year's Day Bowl Games
Triple Crown
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Quote: : Great idea !!
Geowhiz for president !!
I'm moving to Europe!
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Quote: : What would the Economy be like under a geowhiz presidency?
I think our budget deficits and/or surpluses would coincide quite nicely with the following economic events:
March madness
Super Bowl
NBA Playoffs
NFL Playoffs
College Football Season
New Year's Day Bowl Games
Triple Crown
AND don't forget the Scratch Off Food Stamp program for the poor he would start to alleviate his White Guilt Conscience...:lmao:
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Quote: : What would the Economy be like under a geowhiz presidency?
I think our budget deficits and/or surpluses would coincide quite nicely with the following economic events:
March madness
Super Bowl
NBA Playoffs
NFL Playoffs
College Football Season
New Year's Day Bowl Games
Triple Crown Lets not forget, the social security fund would serve as collateral for his offshore bookie....
:p
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Maybe we should truck in or have a helicopter set a few trash bins at the layover, and post signs, in Spanish asking them to pick up after themselves, and there are heavy fines for littering..
Now the recycled trash, and fines collected, could be used, to deter the expenses of having to provide these services.
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