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ILovePhilosophy.com View topic - obamAcorn
Http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/?p=3392
and the voter fraud of acorn is coming home to roost
nice try but your messiah isn't going anywhere...
-Imp cogito ergo cogito
sum ergo sum...
What's the difference between a liberal and Al Qaeda?
Oh, you don't know either?
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." (Thomas Jefferson)
"I don't want them (my daughters) punished with a baby." - Obama
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Oooo noes!
noes!
noes!
As Augustus, the most respected Roman emperor, lay on his death bed, he had a slave bring him a mirror.
He looked at himself, then turned to his friends and asked, "Tell me, have I played my part in the comedy of life well enough?"
"The Dude abides." - The Dude
"The world is an expression of HOW EXCITING ALIENATION CAN BE!"
- Paraphrase from Waking Life
"Reality is the original Rorschach."
- Malaclypse the Younger
My Mind-Altering Drugs Blog
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It's no surprise he's running the dirtiest campaign in history
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So since obama is evil, mccain must be good!
YAY!
CIRCLE FIRE DANCE TIME!
If humans existed in a perpetual state of pleasure, how would we know it?
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Hail Almighty Government As Augustus, the most respected Roman emperor, lay on his death bed, he had a slave bring him a mirror.
He looked at himself, then turned to his friends and asked, "Tell me, have I played my part in the comedy of life well enough?"
"The Dude abides." - The Dude
"The world is an expression of HOW EXCITING ALIENATION CAN BE!"
- Paraphrase from Waking Life
"Reality is the original Rorschach."
- Malaclypse the Younger
My Mind-Altering Drugs Blog
FLICKR ACCOUNT
last.fm profile
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Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ejbv0W ...
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Kids, don't try this at home.
"You guys just sit here thinking you're so smart, but you merely take a long time to say essentially nothing."
-Ade
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Quote: : :banana-dance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ejbv0W ...
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Umm...no.
Those guys completely stand no chance to the band they copyright from.
Faith No More is legendary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDwiTxXzFsA Philip Glass - einstein on the beach
A gigantic woman in one of those motorized wheel-chairs flew past me
with a midget sitting on her shoulders.
I swear to fucking God that chair was going at least fifteen miles and hour.
I don't know how, because those things are supposed to be slow.
I ran to get my camera...but alas, they were gone.- detrop
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You're an FNM fan Huh?
Sweet I am a huge FNM fan goin back to 1989 or so.
But no, Sick of It All are the Elder Statesmen of New York Hardcore, and Faith No More was a punk band from San Fran that eventually would go on to forge their own unique sound.
That said, if I had to pick one FNM song (aside from We Care Alot) to sum up this thread,I think it would be this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5irHyoRNcRY Kids, don't try this at home.
"You guys just sit here thinking you're so smart, but you merely take a long time to say essentially nothing."
-Ade
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And one for Imp, who's a DK fan...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz1sBi0- ...
Re=related Kids, don't try this at home.
"You guys just sit here thinking you're so smart, but you merely take a long time to say essentially nothing."
-Ade
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Politicians do the opposite of what they promise, so look at the policies of their advisors.
In "Obama: the Postmodern Coup," we discover that Obama's policymakers are far right-wingers!
Zbigniew Brzezinski is CEO of the BHO show.
He is an even madder Dr.
Strangelove than Kissinger, who wants to take on Russia and China, and provoke right-wing coups everywhere.
On the economy, it's regressive Skull & Bones figures like Austan Goolsbee.
In military affairs, Gen.
McPeak, the perpetrator of genocidal civilian bombing tactics.
Obama's backers make a laundry-list of the elite: the Rockefellers, Rand Corp., CFR, and the Ford Foundation all over.
That's why he gets the lion's share of corporate campaign financing and a free ride from the media.
If you thought it couldn't get worse than Bush and Cheney, watch out.
Hitler's very slogans were "Hope" and "Change." The agenda behind Obama is tragedy for the hard-pressed people of America and the World.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3uPYo0pS9oIC Free Bird - Lynard Skynyrd|Ex-UK Intel Official says Liquid Explosive Claims "Fiction"|Iraq's missing billions
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Brad Friedman
Posted October 8, 2008 | 10:47 AM (EST)
GOP's ACORN 'Voter Fraud' Lie Ramped Up;
State Police Raid ACORN Office in Vegas
I had been intending to post an answer to the ongoing -- and quickly escalating -- ACORN smears being issued of late by the GOP enemies of democracy out there, who have decided to intensify their unsubstantiated assaults on the community organization, given its effectiveness at registering millions of low-income voters across the country.
Today's incredible raid of an ACORN office in Las Vegas -- in hotly contested Nevada, as coincidence would have it -- has forced me to push this to the top of the heap right now.
I've also posted ACORN's statement on today's nonsense in Vegas at the end of this article.
Note to corporate media: Be sure not to read or report on that part of the story!
With prospects looking bleak for the Republicans this November, pulling out the old ACORN lie -- in hopes of scaring people away from the polls, causing chaos in November by challenging voters when they show up to vote, and putting in place baseless grounds to contest close results later on (when the GOP become "sore losers") -- is just about all they have left at this point.
Doubtless you've heard the smears by now: that ACORN is committing "voter fraud", on behalf of Obama, in hotly contested swing states.
The media has been all too happy to pass that garbage on, without bothering to note that, in fact, the organization attempts to authenticate every registration form their workers submit and by law they must turn in every form to election officials -- even if they find a registration to be fraudulent when they call the phone number submitted on the form, or if the forms are otherwise suspect or incomplete.
They do so, and they flag all questionable registration forms as being suspect before turning them in to officials.
The thanks they receive for registering millions of new voters that nobody else has bothered with, and for notifying officials about questionable registration forms when they turn them in, is that the GOP's democracy-hating propagandists and election officials run to the media shouting, "ACORN is committing voter fraud!
They've turned in hundreds and thousands of fraudulent registration forms!"
Of course they have.
They have to by law.
But what those GOP despots of democracy always forget to mention is that it was ACORN themselves who notified officials about the potentially fraudulent and/or incomplete forms in the first place!
For the quickest idea of how the GOP ACORN scam has run amok, dutifully forwarded by the often clueless corporate media, and then the rightwing wankers in the blogosphere who are only to happy to help enable those who are lying to them -- by putting truth, democracy and country second -- take a look at the following game of rightwing "blogosphere telephone" concerning a recent news conference called by a Lake County, Indiana GOP chair in order to sound the phony alarm about "fraud" committed by ACORN.
* 10/2/08: Northwest Indiana Times files a report headlined "County rejects large number of invalid voter registrations".
The article reports on a news conference held by the Lake County, IN Republican Party chairman, John Curley, who claims "fraudulent applications are the workings of ACORN groups operating from Milwaukee and Chicago who are getting out the vote for Obama." Curley, notes "one registration form was filled out in the name and address of Jimmy John's, a Crown Point fast-food outlet," and other problem registration forms.
He says that county election officials were able to "weed out obviously invalid applications," but neither the reporter, nor apparently Curley, bother to note that ACORN had already informed the officials about the questionable "Jimmy John's" registration when they turned it in, along with the other separately flagged registration forms.
* 10/5/08: Susan Duclos at DigitalJournal.com files an article, linking back to the Times story, headlined "More Dead, Underage And Fictitious Voter Registrations in Indiana, From ACORN", in which the uncurious blogger describes ACORN as "in the news in multiple cities across America lately for filing voter registrations for people that were dead, underage and in some cases duplicate filings." She charges "many people that should be able to legitimately vote, might not be able to because ACORN members 'delivered incomplete registrations'." She fails to note that even "incomplete registrations" must be turned in to officials -- by law.
* 10/6/08: Some yutz at Newsvine, then links back to Duclos with the headine "Obama and Acorn Register Dead Voters in Indiana", virtually charging Obama himself with personally voting thousands of times, using the names of dead people, or some such nonsense.
Thankfully, that story has been "removed by the Newsvine community," who must have been smart enough to see it for the bullshit that it was, since I originally saw it yesterday.
But not without the damage already being done, of course.
That's just one of the smallest examples of how this works.
Add to it the unchecked megaphones of Rush, Drudge, Hannity, Fox and the democracy-haters are off and running, and have their strategy for chaos, purged voters, long lines at the polls, and post-election challenges all lined up for this November.
Add the Bush Dept.
Of Justice to it, and friendly local and state cops, and you get today's PR bonanza in Las Vegas, where the "ACORN Raid", substantiated or not, will be second only to tonight's debate in the headlines tomorrow and for the rest of the month.
As mentioned, ACORN has just released a statement, noting a number of the points I've made above -- and which I have been making to anybody who brings up this garbage over the past year -- on the events that took place today in Las Vegas.
Earlier today, they put out a response to the Indiana allegations.
Those are also now posted below.
Please help spread the word, since clearly, the corporate media won't bother to the real story.
For Immediate Release: October 7, 2008
ACORN Statement from Bertha Lewis, Interim Chief Organizer, on Incident in Las Vegas:
"Over the past year, ACORN has worked hard to help over 80,000 people in Clark County register to vote.
As part of our nonpartisan voter registration program, we have review all the applications submitted by our canvassers.
When we have identified suspicious applications, we have separated them out and flagged them for election officials.
We have zero tolerance for fraudulent registrations.
We immediately dismiss employees we suspect of submitting fraudulent registrations.
For the past 10 months, any time ACORN has identified a potentially fraudulent application, we turn that application into election officials separately and offer to provide election officials with the information they would need to pursue an investigation or prosecution of the individual.
Election officials routinely ignored this information and failed to act.
In early July, ACORN asked to meet with election officials to express our concerns that they were not acting on information ACORN had presented to them.
ACORN met with Clark County elections officials and a representative of the Secretary of State on July 17th.
ACORN pleaded with them to take our concerns about fraudulent applications seriously.
One week later, elections officials asked us to provide them with a second copy of what we had previously provided to them.
ACORN responded by giving election officials copies of 46 "problem application packages," which involved 33 former canvassers.
On September 23, ACORN had received a subpoena dated September 19th requesting information on 15 employees, all of whom had been included in the packages we had previously submitted to election officials.
ACORN provided our personnel records on these 15 employees on September 29.
Today's raid by the Secretary of State's Office is a stunt that serves no useful purpose other than discredit our work registering Nevadans and distracting us from the important work ahead of getting every eligible voter to the polls."
And in regard to Indiana, from an ACORN spokesperson earlier today...
The Republican Party is trying to use this attack to stop early voting from happening and disenfranchise tens of thousands of Lake County residents.
ACORN has submitted 1.3 million applications nationally and over 23,000 in Indiana.
ACORN engages in comprehensive quality control procedures, every card is called through three times.
ACORN flags and turns in three kinds of cards, those that it can verify, those that are incomplete, and those that it flags as problematic.
It turns those in labeled in a special way and are very conservative in terms of what it flags as problematic.
It has stacks of problematic cover sheets.
The Lake County Board of Elections refused to acknowledge the categories of cards when ACORN turned them in, or sign its paperwork.
The Lake County Board knew about the questionable registrations today because ACORN flagged them for the board.
For example, the Jimmy John's card is one that a caller had flagged and labeled as problematic.
ACORN can get that caller to talk to the press.
ACORN did Voter Registration from in July and some parts of August.
As it was doing quality control ACORN noticed a large number of problematic cards and because of this it eased doing registration until late September when it could clear its quality control backlog.
ACORN's recent cards from September and early October are not problematic at the same levels.
Gotta love the strong anti-democracy stance that rightists take .
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Quote: : Politicians do the opposite of what they promise, so look at the policies of their advisors.
In "Obama: the Postmodern Coup," we discover that Obama's policymakers are far right-wingers!
Zbigniew Brzezinski is CEO of the BHO show.
He is an even madder Dr.
Strangelove than Kissinger, who wants to take on Russia and China, and provoke right-wing coups everywhere.
On the economy, it's regressive Skull & Bones figures like Austan Goolsbee.
In military affairs, Gen.
McPeak, the perpetrator of genocidal civilian bombing tactics.
Obama's backers make a laundry-list of the elite: the Rockefellers, Rand Corp., CFR, and the Ford Foundation all over.
That's why he gets the lion's share of corporate campaign financing and a free ride from the media.
If you thought it couldn't get worse than Bush and Cheney, watch out.
Hitler's very slogans were "Hope" and "Change." The agenda behind Obama is tragedy for the hard-pressed people of America and the World.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=3uPYo0pS9oIC
So what you're saying is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXG0q0qe ...
Re=related Kids, don't try this at home.
"You guys just sit here thinking you're so smart, but you merely take a long time to say essentially nothing."
-Ade
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Quote: : And one for Imp, who's a DK fan...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz1sBi0- ...
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excellent...
Thanks
-Imp cogito ergo cogito
sum ergo sum...
What's the difference between a liberal and Al Qaeda?
Oh, you don't know either?
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." (Thomas Jefferson)
"I don't want them (my daughters) punished with a baby." - Obama
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Quote: : So what you're saying is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXG0q0qe ...
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Broadly, yes.
Obama will sell the people big state socialism (particularly given the economic mess brought about by the same people who back both Obama and McCain) but in truth it'll be more corporate subsidy under the guise of a benevolent state.
Obama's entire campaign is 'he's black, so he knows what it's like for poor black people' and 'he is better educated than McCain'.
Pathetic, but it might well work.
Free Bird - Lynard Skynyrd|Ex-UK Intel Official says Liquid Explosive Claims "Fiction"|Iraq's missing billions
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Hello siatd (do check my new post on criticism):
--- Obama will sell the people big state socialism (particularly given the economic mess brought about by the same people who back both Obama and McCain) but in truth it'll be more corporate subsidy under the guise of a benevolent state.
O- Mc Cain will give corporate subsidies under the guise of capitalist market invigoration, the trickle down effect.
So what is the difference other than in narration?
McCain sells small govt, just like Bush, yet when Wall Street falls, they become big-govt, just as any democrat.
They agree on what govt should do, but disagree on when or how often govt should do this or that.
--- Obama's entire campaign is 'he's black, so he knows what it's like for poor black people' and 'he is better educated than McCain'.
Pathetic, but it might well work.
O- A poor caricature, I think.
If it was true then we are as a nation beyond "stupid".
Black people alone will not win Obama the presidency.
And it is not what Obama knows about the black experience (he knows jack-sh@t) but what Katrina-response revealed about it.
The Republicans were in power, so now, if the party fails to get black votes it is because it is being punished by blacks not because they identified with Obama in a fundamental way.
They would have voted for Joe Biden or Clinton...anyone but the incumbent party.
Better educated? That is a fact if university is the level used to compare.
Life wise? McCain has more life experience.
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They're the same candidate.
Oh quickly disappearing photograph
in my more slowly disappearing hand!
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Quote: : They're the same candidate.
They are two means to the same end, but Obama is much more intelligent, period.
"We have heard talk enough.
We have listened to all the drowsy, idealess, vapid sermons that we wish to hear.
We have read your Bible and the works of your best minds.
We have heard your prayers, your solemn groans and your reverential amens.
All these amount to less than nothing.
We want one fact.
We beg at the doors of your churches for just one little fact.
We pass our hats along your pews and under your pulpits and implore you for just one fact.
We know all about your mouldy wonders and your stale miracles.
We want a this year's fact.
We ask only one. Give us one fact for charity.
Your miracles are too ancient.
The witnesses have been dead for nearly two thousand years." -Robert Ingersoll
"My "faith," if truly I have any, is in the idea that methodically applied science increases our knowledge of the Universe." -Phaedrus
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Funny how people expect opposites to run for president.
What would the opposite of either candidate be?
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Libertarian
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Politicians do the opposite of what they promise
http://www.allacademic.com//meta/p_mla_ ...
2071-1.php
also see: "Promises and Performance: Presidential Campaigns as Policy
Predictors" 3/4 kept....not bad considering that a President doesn't dictate and hand down, but has to bargain.
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Good paper.
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Quote: : http://noblesseoblige.org/wordpress/?p=3392
and the voter fraud of acorn is coming home to roost
nice try but your messiah isn't going anywhere...
-Imp
1.
Go to the address bar on your web browser, and type "www.google.com".
2.
Then click on the "News" tab at the top.
3.
After that go to the text bar just to the right of the giant "google news" symbol and type "YPM".
4.
Then try not to fight the reddening of your face.
If 4 does not occur and/or you find yourself at http://www.foxnews.com/, you have done it wrong and need to retry 1-3.
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Amor Quote: :
Seriously, this gives me an errection.
As Augustus, the most respected Roman emperor, lay on his death bed, he had a slave bring him a mirror.
He looked at himself, then turned to his friends and asked, "Tell me, have I played my part in the comedy of life well enough?"
"The Dude abides." - The Dude
"The world is an expression of HOW EXCITING ALIENATION CAN BE!"
- Paraphrase from Waking Life
"Reality is the original Rorschach."
- Malaclypse the Younger
My Mind-Altering Drugs Blog
FLICKR ACCOUNT
last.fm profile
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