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Is it sometimes boring? - Football Forums
Sorry if there've been similar threads to this in the past, I searched around for a bit and couldn't find anything.
It's just something I've been wondering about fans of the top 4 clubs, more specifically United and Chelsea, is that are there swathes of your season which you find boring?
What made me think of it was our Carling Cup match with Morecambe last week - which we won 4-0 - and the fact that although it was pleasing to beat them, and obviously preferable to losing, but that the whole evening was fairly tedious;
We were expected to beat them, we did beat them, there was little to no tension throughout the match and I definitely didn't have that smug glow you normally get after winning.
It just made me wonder, is this how Man Utd and Chelsea fans feel after 70-80% of their Premier League games?
With the exception of the arrival of the rest of the big 4, and selected others, you must turn up fully expecting a win, so is there actually all that much satisfaction in achieving it?
The fact that we turn up to every single league game having absolutely no clue whether we'll win or lose - it's often hard to decide which side's the 'favourite' - is what makes the satisfaction and excitement of winning for me, knowing that under slightly different circumstances the match could have played completely differently.
Even last season in League One, we lost 4 times to the teams which got relegated, no game was a cert the way that Man Utd v Stoke or Chelsea v Sunderland virtualy are.
Obviously the flip side of being a top 2 fan is that when you do reach competitive games, the standard of play, and the rewards available are so much greater.
Even then though, I think of the contrast of the 06/07 FA Cup final, surely one of the biggest games of the season even for thse two clubs, with our delerious final day promotion on the final day thanks to a little helping hand from Cheltenham.
I'm not at all meaning to have a go at top 4 fans, I'm just curious - do you sometimes wish your clubs weren't so superior to the rest of the league.
Or is it worth it for the highs, so much greater than lower league sides could ever hope for, of Man Utd in Moscow, Liverpool in Istanbul or Chelsea finally rising to take the tile after so long?
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Going into a game as favorites and expecting to win 4 or 5-0 but ending up losing or scraping a draw is what football is all about man u here beaten by west ham last season who expected that.
We scraped a draw against wigan at anfeild .
Boro beat and outplayed arsenal.
Chelsea drawn to bolten and dont make me speak about the fa cup.
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The first thing I always want to see is my team play well.
If we are expected to win 4-0 and we do, I am happy because my team has scored 4 goals, not because we avoided embarassment
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This thread doesn't apply to the Arsenal of recent seasons as we've developed into a team that usually outplays its opposition without turning possesion and dominance into large winning scorelines.
So the typical script of an Arsenal match varies a lot these days, though we often are first to score we rarely wrap up the points before the end and there is nearly always a sense of trepidation/anticipation from first whistle to last.
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I must admit i does get boring now and again,there is a lot more heartbreak though i feel,i mean put it this way,if stoke get relegated i can't believe there fans would be heavily shocked but everytime Man Utd lose i honestly feel like the rest of the fans are laughing as such it is a bit boring to always be favourites yes,but this comes with the burden of making losing far worse....i do agree though with "Akny Gooner",as long as we play well im pleased generally because this means we have won....
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I support Spurs.
our fans (me included) expect us to win all 38 games in a season but w only ever win about 15 or so we're always disappointed and never bored
the perennial underacheivers
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Quote: : I support Spurs.
our fans (me included) expect us to win all 38 games in a season but w only ever win about 15 or so we're always disappointed and never bored
the perennial underacheivers because youre avatar didn't lead me to believe that did it?
Or you name?
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Quote: : It's just something I've been wondering about fans of the top 4 clubs, more specifically United and Chelsea, is that are there swathes of your season which you find boring?
Nope...as every season is a marathon, each match is a chunk of that, so every match is just as important and exciting as another.
Quote: : With the exception of the arrival of the rest of the big 4, and selected others, you must turn up fully expecting a win, so is there actually all that much satisfaction in achieving it?
Nope...I never 'expect' a win - every opponent is tough, no-one can be taken for granted - so every win is fantastic.
Beating the other sides at the top is just even more fantastic.
Quote: : I'm not at all meaning to have a go at top 4 fans, I'm just curious - do you sometimes wish your clubs weren't so superior to the rest of the league.
Or is it worth it for the highs, so much greater than lower league sides could ever hope for, of Man Utd in Moscow, Liverpool in Istanbul or Chelsea finally rising to take the tile after so long?
After 42 years supporting Chelsea, I'm delighted to be where we've been for the last 5, right up around the top, competing for everything - beats struggling against relegation or mid-table mediocrity every time.
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Quote: : After 42 years supporting Chelsea, I'm delighted to be where we've been for the last 5, right up around the top, competing for everything - beats struggling against relegation or mid-table mediocrity every time.
Agreed.
I certainly don't get the same buzz from going to the match that I did in the 70's and 80's, but I think that's because the game is so entrenched in money, TV and sponsorship, which along with seating has changed both the background and the demographic of the United crowd.
I don't take anyone for granted, any win is a boost and any defeat ruins my week, but there's no denying I'd rather see United at the top of the League than in mid table no-man's land.
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No it's not boring.
Let every team have their glory, every dog has its day and all that...
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I just simply dont find football boring.
I'm a Liverpool fan who goes to alot of games throughout the calender year, but I'm also a football fan and if I get hold of tickets I'll go and see other games that dont involve them as well.
Obviously I dont support any other team, or cheer for either one at a game..
But like I said I'm a football fan too.
Whether we are expected to win (which we generally are) or we aint, whether its a Champions League game or its a Carling Cup game..
I dont find it boring.
Of course though I get much more of a buzz from a Champions League game or a big Premiership game, I can maybe see in that sense that people only find those games attractive now and may find other games not as important..
Which will then effect the atmosphere etc.
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Quote: : After 42 years supporting Chelsea, I'm delighted to be where we've been for the last 5, right up around the top, competing for everything - beats struggling against relegation or mid-table mediocrity every time.
I agree with what your saying, obviouslys im not as old as you so i dont have the same amount of matches under my belt, but i feel that matches now a days dont have the same feeling with the fans as they used to, matches v spurs in the 80s they were the highlight of my supporting life but now i dont feel the sam passion with other fans at games no w a days
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Quote: : After 42 years supporting Chelsea, I'm delighted to be where we've been for the last 5, right up around the top, competing for everything - beats struggling against relegation or mid-table mediocrity every time.
I can see where you're coming from, but the time I actually enjoyed watching Pompey most was when we were struggling at the foot of the second tier of English Football.
The football was terrible, I went away knowing we didn't have a chance of winning and still loved it.
Now we're an established Premier League side and from a football stand-point I wouldn't change for the world.
However, from a personal perspective I hate it.
My season ticket has long gone by choice and to tell the truth I'm not missing it.
I can now pick and chose games and not arrange everything around the football season.
Maybe one day we'll all go this way, who knows.
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Quote: : CARLING, SIR I can now pick and chose games and not arrange everything around the football season.
Maybe one day we'll all go this way, who knows.
Maybe, but would that be a good thing?
Already Old Trafford has swarms of numpties with their faces painted and air horns, that's the face of the daytripper, in 10 years they'll be in the majority, and that'll be a sad day not just for United but for football?
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Quote: : Maybe, but would that be a good thing?
Already Old Trafford has swarms of numpties with their faces painted and air horns, that's the face of the daytripper, in 10 years they'll be in the majority, and that'll be a sad day not just for United but for football?
But that's the way football is going.
Working class fans are being priced out and will be replaced by the day trippers with their packed lunch along with fold down table.
The problem is, these are the sort of fans clubs want.
These are the sort that will spend the cash in the megastore, buy a programme, have a go on the raffle etc etc It's a sad situation but until football becomes unattractive to the middle class again nothing will improve.
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I dont think see United play can ever be boring.
There is something to play for each game.
The league is so tight now that we need to win almost every game to stand any chance of winning.
Also if you love football and your team then you can never find it boring.
If you found it boring you would stop going to watch, stop coming on sites like this stop feeling happy when you win or sad when you lose and you would start doing something else.
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Quote: : i must admit i does get boring now and again,
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Quote: : mouse Too true.
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Its called football
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Quote: : i must admit i does get boring now and again,there is a lot more heartbreak though i feel,i mean put it this way,if stoke get relegated i can't believe there fans would be heavily shocked That is laughable.
The average Stoke fan has suffered far more heartbreak than you ever will.
Football exists outside the Premier League after all.
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