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Obama: America is 'no longer Christian' - CTZ Forums
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Some have been taking issue with largely unnoticed comments made last year by Sen.
Barack Obama declaring the U.S.
Is "no longer a Christian nation" but is also a nation of others, including Muslims and nonbelievers.
The comments have been recently recirculating on Internet blogs.
"Whatever we once were, we're no longer a Christian nation.
At least not just.
We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, and a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers," Obama said during a June 2007 speech available on YouTube.
At the speech, Obama also seemingly blasted the "Christian Right" for hijacking religion and using it to divide the nation:
"Somehow, somewhere along the way, faith stopped being used to bring us together and started being used to drive us apart.
It got hijacked. Part of it's because of the so-called leaders of the Christian Right, who've been all too eager to exploit what divides us," he said.
Asked last year to clarify his remarks, Obama repeated them to the Christian Broadcast Network:
"I think that the right might worry a bit more about the dangers of sectarianism.
Whatever we once were, we're no longer just a Christian nation;
We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers," Obama wrote in an e-mail to CBN News senior national correspondent David Brody.
"We should acknowledge this and realize that when we're formulating policies from the state house to the Senate floor to the White House, we've got to work to translate our reasoning into values that are accessible to every one of our citizens, not just members of our own faith community," wrote Obama.
Obama did clarify his statement about the "Christian Right."
"My intention was to contrast the heated partisan rhetoric of a distinct minority of Christian leaders with the vast majority of Evangelical Christians conservatives included who believe that hate has no place in our politics.
"When you have pastors and television pundits who appear to explicitly coordinate with one political party;
When you're implying that your fellow Americans are traitors, terrorist sympathizers or akin to the devil himself;
Then I think you're attempting to hijack the faith of those who follow you for your own personal or political ends," wrote Obama.
The Illinois senator's speech declaring the U.S.
"no longer Christian" was met with little fanfare.
But it has been getting some recent play.
A television commercial that aired in South Dakota by a group calling itself the Coalition Against Anti-Christian Rhetoric juxtaposes the audio of Obama's "no longer Christian" statement over images of the presidential candidate dressed in Somali garb and a picture of Obama with his hands rested below his waist while other politicians place their hands over their hearts during the Pledge of Allegiance.
"It's time for people to take a stand against Barack Hussein Obama," declares the voiceover on the commercial.
The Gateway Pundit blog took notice of Obama's speech about the U.S.
Being a nation also for Muslims and non-believers.
"This won't play well in the Bible Belt," commented the blog in a recent posting.
Obama's campaign has long utilized faith as a central theme.
The candidate's Christianity and his former membership in the controversial Trinity United Church of Christ have been much scrutinized.
His comment about the "Christian Right" echoed similar statements made by Merrill A.
McPeak, Obama's military adviser and national campaign co-chairman.
As WND reported, in a 2003 interview with The Oregonian newspaper, McPeak seemed to compare evangelical Christians to the terror groups Hamas and Hezbollah.
The Oregonian interviewer asked McPeak whether "there's an element within Hamas, Hezbollah, that doesn't want Israel to exist at all and always will be there?"
McPeak responded by comparing the two terror groups to "radical" Oregonians.
"There's an element in Oregon, you know, that's always going to be radical in some pernicious way, and likely to clothe it in religious garments, so it makes it harder to attack.
So there's craziness all over the place."
Oregon has a large evangelical Christian community.
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The more I hear Obama speak the more I hear him telling everyone to "disregard" what they believe and to have faith, hope, strength and peace in him.
O.k. he doesn't say that exactly but that is the message he is sending.
Any true Christian will see through him in a heart beat and turn away from him;
No question there.
But because the mass population is non Christian they look to him for those things that they are hungry for and they will vote for him.
This is something I will never understand ;
Boggles my mind. Why are people so quick into running for a lie that will only hurt them and are quick to turn up their chins and spit in the face of Jesus.
Man has based Jesus off of other men instead of reading the bible for themselves.
They have to be brained washed into thinking they are so smart when they run rampant as fools like scripture shows us.
Well one day soon God will serve justice and they will all know who they should of looked to for these things.
Why would any person put faith in a man;
Really? What man on earth has ever been faithful ( not talking about when Jesus was here:) )?
Have these people ever seen a person hurt by Christ?
I would say not.
Hasn't He not delivered enough proof for people?
I would say so.
So why are they so hasty to believe man?
Is it because they can physically see man?
I would say so and I would say science is good and all but it doesn't help in this department.
What is that term;
"seeing is believing".
I think people take this term in the wrong text and where did it come form any ways?
So if people don't want to listen about talk of Jesus or read for themselves about Him than scoff if they will.
They will choose who to value and who to not;
So fine, let them have what their crops will yield.
Let them water their crops with salt and plant it in the shade.
But we as Christians if anyone wants to know Jesus we welcome all and any with open arms and open hearts.
I love in the bible how it talks of everything under the sun is just chasing after the wind and meaningless.
How true that is.
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He is not the AC but a AC.
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I'd would say it looks that way.
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Let me think.
I think we are a nation with many beliefs and traditions.
Let me think.
Yep.
Religious freedom is a foundation that this country has.
WOW
Obama is right.
The christian mofia would have us believe we should hate others.
Jesus taught us to love our enemy.
Get with the program folks and start to love your enemies.
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Quote: : Let me think.
I think we are a nation with many beliefs and traditions.
Let me think.
Yep.
Religious freedom is a foundation that this country has.
WOW
Obama is right.
The christian mofia would have us believe we should hate others.
Jesus taught us to love our enemy.
Get with the program folks and start to love your enemies.
The US was founded founded upon Christian principles, not Islamic or Mysticism.
There is no such thing as freedom in Islam.
There is Sharia Law.
Or in Mysticism, there is anarchy.
For the politically correct into situational ethics preaching absolutes, which, by the way, Christ taught, is hate.
Calling evil and wrong evil and wrong is hateful by their definition.
Christ said love your enemy but also said a strong man defends his home, the soldier does not bear his sword in vain and told the Apostles to buy and carry swords with them.
Shopping Cart Theology is the tool of the so-called liberal Christians,which isn't Christian at all.
Bobrobert, the biggest sign of the End Times is Apostasy.
Obama, White, the Mega Churches and such are in that bed.
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You cannot believe that we should hate people.
You cannot believe that you are a judge as to who is a christian.
Name calling can be fun - but it isn't at all effective for christians to use in supporting the bible as our basis for opinions and living a christian life.
Shopping Cart Theology - that is so funny.
Quote: : Who is the christian?
- now that is a good question.
God knows fer sure.
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Quote: : You cannot believe that we should hate people.
You cannot believe that you are a judge as to who is a christian.
Name calling can be fun - but it isn't at all effective for christians to use in supporting the bible as our basis for opinions and living a christian life.
Shopping Cart Theology - that is so funny.
Quote: : Who is the christian?
- now that is a good question.
God knows fer sure.
why are YOU pushing hate here?
you sound more like a adverstisment for obama as president.
indeed God does know for sure.
the we are all one mantra is old.
just what kindof faith is obama pushing?
faith in him?
unity in diversity is nonsense.
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The US may no longer be a christian nation.
The US should be a christian nation since it is blessed in so many ways.
The US has so many resources that their is no excuse not to be a christian nation.
My guess it is easier for everyone to concentrate on TV and their computers rather than their bible.
Sad when you think about it.
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It is sad.
But the more the wealth the harder it is for people to bow to God.
Ego and arrogance.
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