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Cassin's Kingbird ?? - Playa Del Rey, CA - BirdForum
I think this is a Cassin's Kingbird seen today in Playa Del Rey, CA.
I couldn't get a photo of the bird from the front, but this bird appears to have pale tips on the tail which would be good for a Cassin's.
I don't see any white on the edges of the tail which would indicate a Western Kingbird.
Also from what I can see of the face there doesn't appear to be enough white for a Western Kingbird.
What do you guys think???
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I agree, Cassin's Kingbird - I can see some white on the tip of the tail, Also Cassin's Kingbird is more likely this time of year than Western.
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Indeed, a Cassin's.
Notice the light-tipped tail feathers and the contrasting white on the face, with the dark gray of the head and breast.
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Quote: : Falcon I agree, Cassin's Kingbird - I can see some white on the tip of the tail, Also Cassin's Kingbird is more likely this time of year than Western.
I'm confused by the "more likely this time of year" part.
I took the below photos last year at the Madronna Marsh also in Southern California.
I don't remember the exact dates when I took them but it was either Jan or Feb.
I I.D.ed these at the time as Western Kingbirds.
Am I wrong on their I.D.??
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"I I.D.ed these at the time as Western Kingbirds.
Am I wrong on their I.D.??"
I'd say not.
Compare the bill size;
Slighter on your bird - head and throat colours;
Paler grey head and whiter throat - and the fringing on the secondaries, tertials, greater coverts and scapulars;
Much less pronounced on your bird than the Cassin's above.
Plus I also get the impression of white outer tail feathers on the second of your photos.
Mind you it's been a while for me since I've seen either...!!
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Quote: : Caudwell "I I.D.ed these at the time as Western Kingbirds.
Am I wrong on their I.D.??"
I'd say not.
Compare the bill size;
Slighter on your bird - head and throat colours;
Paler grey head and whiter throat - and the fringing on the secondaries, tertials, greater coverts and scapulars;
Much less pronounced on your bird than the Cassin's above.
Plus I also get the impression of white outer tail feathers on the second of your photos.
Mind you it's been a while for me since I've seen either...!!
Hahaha, I'm in Dave's boat on pretty much all counts - I think your older photos are Westerns - more certain about the 2nd one - and it's also been quite a while since I've done ANY birding, let alone birding in the west!
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Thanks guys.
I was hoping I was right about the Cassin's, that's a lifer for me.
Glad to know I didn't miss identify the Western Kingbirds.
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Also, for future reference, the calls will easily separate Cassin's and Western Kingbirds...
Cassin's:
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAbou...dtl.html#sound
Western:
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAbou...dtl.html#sound
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