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Muslim woman fight for right to join Al-Qaeda/Matyrdom missions.
Muslim Extremist Women Fight For Right To Join Al Qaeda
Iranian female students, fill in the papers of registration formsindicating their readiness for martyrdom, or to carry out suicideattacks, in Tehran, Iran, Saturday, Feb.
18, 2006.
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) ― Muslim extremist women are challenging al Qaeda's refusal to include -or at least acknowledge - women in its ranks, in an emotional debatethat gives rare insight into the gender conflicts lurking beneath oneof the strictest strains of Islam.
Inresponse to a female questioner, al Qaeda No.
2 leader Ayman Al-Zawahrisaid in April that the terrorist group does not have women.
A woman'srole, he said on the Internet audio recording, is limited to caring forthe homes and children of al Qaeda fighters.
His remarks havesince prompted an outcry from fundamentalist women, who are fighting orpleading for the right to be terrorists.
The statements have alsocreated some confusion, because in fact suicide bombings by women seemto be on the rise, at least within the Iraq branch of al Qaeda.
A'eedaDahsheh is a Palestinian mother of four in Lebanon who said shesupports al-Zawahri and has chosen to raise children at home as herform of jihad.
However, she said, she also supports any woman whochooses instead to take part in terror attacks.
Another woman signed a more than 2,000-word essay of protest online as Rabeebat al-Silah, Arabic for "Companion of Weapons."
"Howmany times have I wished I were a man ...
When Sheikh Ayman al-Zawahrisaid there are no women in al Qaeda, he saddened and hurt me," wrote"Companion of Weapons," who said she listened to the speech 10 times."I felt that my heart was about to explode in my chest...I ampowerless."
Such postings have appeared anonymously ondiscussion forums of Web sites that host videos from top al Qaedaleader Osama bin Laden.
While the most popular site requires names andpasswords, many people use only nicknames, making their identities andlocations impossible to verify.
However, groups that monitorsuch sites say the postings appear credible because of the knowledgeand passion they betray.
Many appear to represent computer-literatewomen arguing in the most modern of venues - the Internet - for rightswithin a feudal version of Islam.
"Women were verydisappointed because what al-Zawahri said is not what's happening todayin the Middle East, especially in Iraq or in Palestinian groups," saidRita Katz, director of the SITE Intelligence Group, an organizationthat monitors militant Web sites.
"Suicide operations are being carriedout by women, who play an important role in jihad."
It's not clear how far women play a role in al Qaeda because of the group's amorphous nature.
Terrorismexperts believe there are no women in the core leadership ranks aroundbin Laden and al-Zawahri.
But beyond that core, al Qaeda is really amovement with loosely linked offshoots in various countries andsympathizers who may not play a direct role.
Women are clearly amongthese sympathizers, and some are part of the offshoot groups.
Inthe Iraq branch, for example, women have carried out or attempted atleast 20 suicide bombings since 2003.
Al Qaeda members suspected oftraining women to use suicide belts were captured in Iraq at leastthree times last year, the U.S.
Military has said.
Hamas,another militant group, is open about using women fighters anddisagrees with al Qaeda's stated stance.
At least 11 Palestinian womenhave launched suicide attacks in recent years.
"A lot of thegirls I speak to ...
Want to carry weapons.
They live with this greatfrustration and oppression," said Huda Naim, a prominent women'sleader, Hamas member and Palestinian lawmaker in Gaza.
"We don't have aspecial militant wing for women ...
But that doesn't mean that we stripwomen of the right to go to jihad."
Al-Zawahri's remarks showthe fine line al Qaeda walks in terms of public relations.
In a modernArab world where women work even in some conservative countries, alQaeda's attitude could hurt its efforts to win over the public atlarge.
On the other hand, noted SITE director Katz, al-Zawahri has toconsider that many al Qaeda supporters, such as the Taliban, do notbelieve women should play a military role in jihad.
Al-Zawahri'scomments came in a two-hour audio recording posted on an Islamicmilitant Web site, where he answered hundreds of questions sent in byal Qaeda sympathizers.
He praised the wives of mujahedeen, or holywarriors.
He also said a Muslim woman should "be ready for any servicethe mujahedeen need from her," but advised against traveling to a warfront like Afghanistan without a male guardian.
Al-Zawahri'sstance might stem from personal history, as well as religious beliefs.His first wife and at least two of their six children were killed in aU.S.
Air strike in the southern Afghan city of Kandahar in 2001.
Helater accused the U.S.
Of intentionally targeting women and children inIraq and Afghanistan.
"I say to you ...
(I have) tasted thebitterness of American brutality: my favorite wife's chest was crushedby a concrete ceiling," he wrote in a 2005 letter.
Al-Zawahri'squestion-and-answer campaign is one sign of al Qaeda's sophisticationin using the Web to keep in touch with its popular base, even while itsleaders remain in hiding.
However, the Internet has also given thosedisenfranchised by al Qaeda - in this case, women - a voice they neverhad before.
The Internet is the only "breathing space" forwomen who are often shrouded in black veils and confined to theirhomes, "Ossama2001" wrote.
She said al-Zawahri's words "opened oldwounds" and pleaded with God to liberate women so they can participatein holy war.
Another woman, Umm Farouq, or mother of Farouq,wrote: "I use my pen and words, my honest emotions ...
Jihad is notexclusive to men."
Such women are al Qaeda sympathizers whowould not feel comfortable expressing themselves with men or othersoutside their circles, said Dia'a Rashwan, an expert on terrorism andIslamic movements at the Al-Ahram Center for Political and StrategicStudies in Cairo.
"The Internet gives them the ideal place to write their ideas, while they're hidden far from the world," he said.
Menhave also responded to al-Zawahri's remarks.
One male Internet posternamed Hassan al-Saif asked: "Does our sheik mean that there is no needto use women in our current jihad?
Why can we not use them?"
Hewas in the minority.
Dozens of postings were signed by men who agreedwith al-Zawahri that women should stick to supporting men and raisingchildren according to militant Islam.
Women bent on becomingmilitants have at least one place to turn to.
A niche magazine called"al-Khansaa" - named for a female poet in pre-Islamic Arabia who wrotelamentations for two brothers killed in battle - has popped up online.The magazine is published by a group that calls itself the "women'sinformation office in the Arab peninsula," and its contents includearticles on women's terrorist training camps, according to SITE.
Itsfirst issue, with a hot pink cover and gold embossed lettering,appeared in August 2004 with the lead article "Biography of the FemaleMujahedeen."
The article read:
"We will stand, coveredby our veils and wrapped in our robes, weapons in hand, our children inour laps, with the Quran and the Sunna (sayings) of the Prophet ofAllah directing and guiding us."
By Associated Press writerLauren Frayer;
AP writer Pakinam Amer contributed to this report fromCairo;
AP writer Diaa Hadid contributed from the Gaza Strip;
And APwriter Zeina Karam contributed from Beirut, Lebanon.
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Of all the things that muslim women should be fighting for, THIS is what they chose?
Dipshits.
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Mara Jade:
Of all the things that muslim women should be fighting for, THIS is what they chose?
Dipshits.
sad....and as soon as these womens bodies start lining up as statistics, you'll see them on all the news portraying us as some women killing monsters....and when a few of innocent ones are killed they better just shut up and accept that and their cowardly tactics as casualties of war....dresses or Khakis...they will be a legitimate target.
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I think they are looking for "72 male virgins" ....My mental image of "72 male virgins" is not good.
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Mara Jade:
Of all the things that muslim women should be fighting for, THIS is what they chose?
Dipshits.
Who chooses what they should be fighting for?
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Æon :
I think they are looking for "72 male virgins" ....My mental image of "72 male virgins" is not good.
heaven must have alot of lubrication
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The weak coward and alcoholic scumbag with brain damages clearly seen in George W.
Bush's face-crane & elected as an idiot as his father was who needs 4 hips operations to walk a marathon(his father is not a man but a brainless scum-bag with a bastard body too(anyone needs more than two punches to knock such Bush-scumbags out with a deadly bleedind face ?)) : Let the hunt begin after the Bush bastards!
Let the bastard kids who are just trash from his bastard Mexican prostitute bleed too!
THE BASE only existed in the Maroccan Counter-Atlas but never existed in Waziristan-Kandahar- or Pamir-Region and is the alcoholic invention of the Bush-scumbags.HAHAHAahahaha!
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Fucking mullahs....the press will have our ass if we shot any female terrorist..thats the situation we are facing over there guys.
I doubt the dumb ass war protesters understands.
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I understand muslim women concerns.
To be honest I am disappointed the only black member of al qaeda being proscecuted by america GOT CAUGHT.
It would be so much more inspiring if Al Qaeda was more diverse.
But 911 was all saudi arab men.
What I would say to the women is the same thing I am saying to blacks who might complain.
You dont like it, then get your own cave and build your own al qaeda filled with women, blacks, OR WHOEVER your group is that feels slighted.
I am sure when your disadvantaged group manages to hit the US as successful as those saudi arabs did Bin laden will be motivated to expand.
For now his saudi arab only elite warrior clan is being protected because the US cant penetrate it with blonds, blacks, or turncoat arab women in the CIA.
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I too wish I were noble enough to strap a bomb to my body and murder dozens, perhaps hundreds of innocent people.
Alas, I'm not Muslim.
Or severely retarded.
(They WILL let you do it if you're retarded, as long as you're male.)
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Haha, islam in action...
Lets all keep pretending its a peaceful religion and not own up to the fact that its a hate cult.
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A:
The weak coward and alcoholic scumbag with brain damages clearly seen in George W.
Bush's face-crane & elected as an idiot as his father was who needs 4 hips operations to walk a marathon(his father is not a man but a brainless scum-bag with a bastard body too(anyone needs more than two punches to knock such Bush-scumbags out with a deadly bleedind face ?)) : Let the hunt begin after the Bush bastards!
Let the bastard kids who are just trash from his bastard Mexican prostitute bleed too!
THE BASE only existed in the Maroccan Counter-Atlas but never existed in Waziristan-Kandahar- or Pamir-Region and is the alcoholic invention of the Bush-scumbags.HAHAHAahahaha!
well Bush senior with that "bastard body" in 1991 shown the world that it wasnt a factor at all....p.s....you talk like a third grader...and as third graders do its because they're still learning at that young age how to write and speak...37?...you've got to be kidding....is Norway that dull and boring for you as to instead now show such concern for our country?..you are a minus 1 for sure.
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At least the want equality...
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Radical nationalist:
At least the want equality...
lol....much safer and saner to just ask their husbands if they could take off all those clothes they cover their bodies with....that would be a start of gaining equal status....and they would actually LIVE to enjoy this new found status as an equal....kinda.
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Islamic extremists are running out of retards
and mentaly ill suicidals, now they have to
recruit from the women
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