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My NBA Draft 08 thoughts - InterBasket
So you basically say that all players are busts.
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Where's Serge Ibaka?
He should have been a lottery based on the limit "highlight reels" that I've seen.
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Quote: : So you basically say that all players are busts.
No.
I think Rush for example will be very good.
There are plenty of good players in this draft but I think many of them, being young players, are flawed.
Had they not had shortcomings they would all be number 1s but they are not.
This is obviously just my thoughts.
One always needs to understand the situation they were put in, Kansas St without Beasleys offence would never have been in March Madness.
OJ Mayo will be very good as well if he ends up in the right situation, I felt that if Mayo had been given the PG position full time he would probably have looked better.
Quote: : Where's Serge Ibaka?
He should have been a lottery based on the limit "highlight reels" that I've seen.
I have not seen Ibaka and I refuse to form an opinon on a fluff tape on youtube or the like.
Besides, his agent is cirkulating a mail stating that ibaka will stay in europe for the next 2+ years since he has a really good offer and that he therefor cant be a serious candidate for the first round (the exit clause after 2 years is apparently steep).
Also, you seem to think I have ranked the prospect -I have not.
I dont really care how the draft plays out as long as Portland gets Rush Oh, and as long as Syracuse continues to implode.
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Thanks for your thoughts on these players.
I liked reading what you think, Billy!
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Quote: : Thanks for your thoughts on these players.
I liked reading what you think, Billy!
Thanks.
I dunno if you are a Cavs fan, but if you are, perhaps you would like to know that Cleveland made a promise to Jonas Jerebko before he pulled out of the draft.
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May I ask what time exactly is the Draft tonight?
I read about 9 pm but what is it?
Eastern Time? What?
Thanx.
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KWSN - It'll be at 7:00 Eastern time.
Quote: : I dunno if you are a Cavs fan, but if you are, perhaps you would like to know that Cleveland made a promise to Jonas Jerebko before he pulled out of the draft.
Yeah, I'm a Cavs fan.
Do you know what the Cavs said to Jerebko?
I've heard of him (Swedish big forward, right?) but I don't know anything about him.
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Quote: : KWSN - It'll be at 7:00 Eastern time.
Thanx a lot.
Anybody has a link to watch that online?
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Quote: : Thanx a lot.
Anybody has a link to watch that online?
http://www.justin.tv/dubtv2 - only seems to work with the Internet Explorer though, and the stream is not 100% smooth atm.
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Quote: : Yeah, I'm a Cavs fan.
Do you know what the Cavs said to Jerebko?
I've heard of him (Swedish big forward, right?) but I don't know anything about him.
They said that they would draft him if he stayed in the draft.
And this is just not something I picked up on some random forum -this is a VERY credible source.
Jonas Jerebko is an interesting player as he has a number of very intriguing tools.
First off, he came to Plannja during the 06-07 season and measured in at 204 cm.
At the end of season they took his measurements again and he had grown 2 cm in 8 months.
If he has grown more this season length wise I dont know but one thing is certain, he has put on some muscles.
He used to be rail thin but he definitely has more muscles now.
His legs have filled out a bit and his shoulders are much more meaty.
I noticed that draftexpress has him down as a 4 with the possibility of playing the 3 but this is obviously coming from someone who has not sen him play over a longer period of time.
Jonas was playing the PG position up until he came to Plannja at the age of 19.
During his Plannja season he played mostly at the 3 and sometimes 2 and occasinally the 4.
The reason that Plannja played him in so many positions is that they tried to match him up with the best player of the opposing team.
Jonas has a really good understanding on how to position himself and has a very nice wingspan (I cant find the data for standing reach and the like at the mo -sorry) and although his footwork needs improvement he has a very nice ability to stay in front of his man.
In one game he got matched up with Kaniel Dickens (who I believe is actually with the cavs at the mo and is a quite talented player) and absolutely destroyed him (2 blocks, one travel and one air ball) in the last five position when Dickens was asked to bring the game home.
It was really fun to watch Jerebko go up against an established player and just flat out take it to him.
Apparenty he also played well against Galinari, something that leads me to believe he can really up his game against better players.
Jonas is one of those guys that has a natural feel for the game, his length and mobility makes him an excellent rebounder although he is still not built to compete underneath the basket.
Rebounds somehow ends up with him anyway.
On offence he was somewhat reliant on his superior speed, he is very quick and has a very nice handle althoug can be somewhat careless with the ball.
His shot mechanics was kinda slow and it looks as if he sometimes (read: often) leans one side when shooting.
This seems to have been changed after arriving in Biella, I saw a video from the treviso camp and his shot is much, much better now.
Quicker release, doesnt dip the ball and he looks much more at ease with stepping into his shot.
Before he had to have his feet set in order to get a good shot of, now it looked effortless.
Jonas is a good kid, highly coachable, driven and goal oriented, a nice thing to see since many kids take their talent for granted and expect to coast along just fine and still reach their goals.
If asked to compare to a NBA player today Id say his game mostly reminds me of Hedo Turkoglus but with better defence and with a touch of Drejer perhaps (before injury!).
Make no mistake, this kid will never ever be best utilized playing the 4 -he is a perimeter player.
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Quote: : Kosta Koufos.
Never liked him. Hated this years Ohio State.
Ugly player (dont like his game.
You should take it hard to the basket when you are allegedly 7 foot) I felt he disappeared against physical players.
Well I have one Ohio game this season but I still didn't watch it, but I saw some games of the U18 Eurobasket and I have to say that I like him very much indeed.
He runs the floor very well for a player of his height and is a good shooter.
It's true he isn't physical, but that could be an advantage, since he can make long shots.
But he can still bulk up.
One of my favourite young players to be honest.
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1. Chicago Bulls: Derrick Rose
2.
Miami Heat: Michael Beasley
3.
Minnesota Timberwolves: O.J.
Mayo
4. Seattle Supersonics: Russell Westbrook
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Memphis Grizzlies: Kevin Love
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New York Knicks: Danilo Gallinari
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LA Clippers: Eric Gordon
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Milwaukee Bucks: Joe Alexander
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Charlotte Bobcats: D.J.
Augustin
10. New Jersey Nets: Brook Lopez
Nice and expected move by D'Antoni..
Gallinari is already a better player then half of those from the Knicks lockerroom..
apparently when Knicks were announcing their pick Gallinari was booed, but stupid newyorkers will be cheering him in few months..
finally some sun in that club, I hope better days are coming for them..
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Gallinari got a good pick, and his father's friend will be a nice coach with him.
Congrats to him. The other Euro players seems in less good position.
At least the ones from first round:
Batum was drafted quite far, I can't understand how you can take Ajinca over him.
In Portland, a team full of SF or SGs, it's the worst place for him.
I would sign anywhere else if I was him.
Ajinca, i still think he is not ready for the big league...
So...
Ibaka, well, the same, he needs to prove himself at a higher level, at least one year.
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So, what do we have here from a European standpoint ...
Round I
6 New York Knicks - Danilo Gallinari
20 Charlotte - Alexis Ajinca
23 Utah - Kosta Koufos
24 Seattle - Serge Ibaka (Congo, I know, but played in Europe)
25 Houston - Nicolas Batum
Round II
1 Minnesota - Nikola Pekovic
6 Minnesota - Omer Asik
14 Utah - Ante Tomic
15 San Antonio - Goran Dragic
23 Utah - Tadija Dragicevic
26 Seattle - Aleksandar Kaun
30 Boston - Semih Erden
Gallinari at six got booed.
Might not be a bad fit with D'Antoni though.
Ajinca at 20? Damn.
For Koufos, disaster strikes.
Note: Memphis traded their big man Kevin Love among others to Minnesota for O.J Mayo, Antoine Walker and Marko Jaric.
Hence more playing time for Marc Gasol?
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Quote: : Nice and expected move by D'Antoni..
Gallinari is already a better player then half of those from the Knicks lockerroom..
Sad but true. Quote: : apparently when Knicks were announcing their pick Gallinari was booed, but stupid newyorkers will be cheering him in few months..
finally some sun in that club, I hope better days are coming for them..
There were some boos and some cheers for Gallinari.
Actually, the ESPN commentators, including Marc Jackson, Jay Bilas, and Fran Frischella, seemed pretty supportive.
Marc Jackson praised Gallinari's attitude.
He's going to be OK.
Like everybody, I think he'll play well with D'Antoni.
It'll be interesting to see what else the Knicks do over the summer.
Some of my other thoughts:I suppose Chicago is going to try to trade one of their guards now that they have Rose.
Rose will do a good job for them.Isiah Thomas had a fantastic draft last night.
His best in years.New Jersey got lucky with Brook Lopez at ten.
He'll do well with Krstic and Yi.Ajinca really hasn't played well at all.
I mean, he's kind of an average player in France, right?Toronto got a nice pick with Roy Hibbert.
I like Hibbert a lot.
He gives Toronto a nice big man to come in behind O'Neal and Bosh.
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Right for ajinca, he struggled to get some minutes this season, knowing he was transfered last summer to hyères-toulon by pau-orthez which did not believe that much in his profile (basically coz of his physical frame & herbert never gave him a chance).
He started this season on the bench in HT but in the second half he finally got some decent minutes & managed to achieve a few good games.
I guess he benefited the most from the last hoop summit (+ the one from last year even though batum was much more consistent) & from his latest work-out as he was still ranked in the late 20ies and early 30ies in last month's rankings more or less.
As for batum, it's not such a burden to be in portland as he could be the third rotation (or better if he proves stuff in training).
Knowing what has been the last week for him and the last year to a lesser extent, i m pretty sure he's satisfied to be drafted in the 1st round.
Less pressure hopefully for him this year, i really hope he will develop his physical gifts & get a coach to improve his technic as he is already nba ready in other fields.
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Kosta koufus is about as european as my father...he was born and raised in Ohio.
Ajinca only got drafted that high because of his workouts....apparently he was a very impressive individual outside of just his raw basketball ability, but everyone was impressed with his monstrous length.
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Rose gonna very great beasley's gonna be a star oj star also,, but for now,, mayo has the biggest chance to contribute right away rose and beasley, oj will be the starting sg of memphis,, rose, dont know with hinrich there,, hinrich first the mid season it's rose turn, or maybe rose all the way,, dont know about beasley,, heat has two offensive opt, marion and wade,, maybe beasley 3rd opt..
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