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eBay Forums: Is this true? Bush ProposaL re: birth ...
Http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/15/washington/15rule.html?_r=1&sq=birth
Quote: : The proposed regulation is an eleventh-hour attack before Bush's far-right appointees leave office.
If enacted it would:
Protect Birth Control: No to President Bush's Latest Proposal
Target: U.S.
Congress
Sponsored by: Care2
The Bush administration is proposing a new regulation that would discourage doctors and health-care clinics from providing birth control to women who need it.
This regulation would require federal health programs to certify that they will hire nurses and other providers who openly object to abortion or contraception in order to receive federal aid to run their programs.
The regulation could seriously jeopardize state laws and policies that protect women's access to birth control.
For example, state laws that require hospitals to provide sexual-assault victims with access to emergency contraception could be jeopardized!
Members of Congress are calling on the Bush administration to change course.
Please let your members of Congress know that you strongly oppose this attack on women's health and individual rights.
Allow hospitals, HMOs and health plans to refuse to provide services or make referrals for birth control.
Undermine state laws that require hospitals to provide emergency contraception to rape survivors, ensure pharmacies stock and fill women's prescriptions for birth control and mandate health plans that cover prescription medications to include birth control in their plans.
Affect Medicaid and Title X family-planning programs by enabling staff at clinics to refuse contraception to women.
Federal regulations don't need approval from Congress, but your representative and senator can call on the Bush Administration to change course.
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Here is a petition you can sign.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/123393979?z00m=15914490
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Don't know if it is true, but it sure wouldn't surprise me a bit.
Going to sign the petition Paintingdanno3
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How can it be legal for someone to refuse birth control when birth control is legal?
I did hear of some pharmacists refusing to fill B.C.
Scripts...it's amazing to me how incredibly angry that makes me.
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Is it a farce? Tell me it is!!!
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I'm a Care2 subscriber, I would be shocked if this is indeed a farce, but....very HAPPY!
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No jab meant at you artisto, just can't believe that anyone in this day and age would be opposed to bc
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Oh I absolutely knew there was no jab at me, no problem.
I am just trying to totally understand this.
It sounds to me like if a hospital wants funding they are not allowed to discriminate against hiring people who would refuse "the morning after" pill to a rape victim or birth control to women in general.
Isn't that imposing someone's religious beliefs on another?
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I, too, have heard of pharmacies refusing to fill B.C.
Prescriptions. One here in town tried to do that, but the threat of a lawsuit put an end to it.
Apparently their "religious convictions" weren't as strong as their greed
Very much an Anger Issue, with me, too.
Paintingdanno3
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There is supposed to be a separation of church and state.
I think if a hospital is government supported, they should be responsive to a morning after pill for survivors of sexual assault and birth control for women.
If it's a privately funded hospital that doesn't get government assistance, I think that would be different.
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Whoa!!
Please read this again!
they are not saying providers can ONLY hire people with those views, but that they must hire them along with those who agree with birth control.
Here's the thing, I agree with the seperation of church and state 100% - the voters need to speak up loud and clear about this but let's not make the mistake of running off on side issues!
the most important issues in front of the next president will be this issue as it's addressed in the supreme court.
We need to make sure our next president states clearly where he stands on this issue - no government in our churches, no churches in our government!
Loud and clear!
so before you run off on this - think - couldn't your efforts be better spent on this core issue?
Life is not about finding yourself!
It's about creating yourself
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Sorry...sound like something bush would do.
I hope snopes says its a joke but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true!
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SHE'S BACK: Hillary Rips Bush On Birth Control
Clinton Makes Loud Return To NYC, Rallies City Residents To Oppose President's Plans For Family Planning
NEW YORK (CBS) ― Hillary Clinton first appearance in New York City on Friday as a senator, not a presidential candidate, was to expose new Bush administration plans to limit access to family planning and contraception services.
New Yorkers applauded loudly for Clinton even as our junior senator came home to give a loud Bronx cheer to a move by President Bush to limit birth control and other services women need.
"This is a gratuitous, unnecessary insult to the women of the United States of America," Clinton said.
Clinton is trying to stop a move by the Bush administration to expand the definition of abortion to include many common forms of contraception, including birth control pills, the RU486 "Morning After" pill and other devices.
It's so draconian that, "Women would watch their contraceptive coverage disappear overnight," Clinton said.
It gets worse if the woman is a rape victim.
"Under these Bush rules an ideologically-driven hospital administrator or an emergency room supervisor or a doctor or nurse on duty could deny this woman access to emergency contraception, so the woman who survived the assault would now be at risk of becoming pregnant," Clinton said.
Congresswoman Nita Lowey, D-Westchester, explained further the perceived ramifications of the Bush plan.
"Health care companies that want for whatever reason to drop coverage of birth control could do so under the rule, simply claiming the birth control is abortion," Lowey said.
Jo Ann Smith, CEO of Family Planning Advocates of New York, seriously questioned Bush plan.
"What kind of a world view would deny a woman a chance to use her own conscience to make her most basic health care decision?" Smith said.
Ann David, an OBGYN at the Family Planning Clinic in Washington Heights, said if anything the president's plan will cause more problems.
"If enacted, these rules could make birth control out of reach for some women and that is a sure way to guarantee more unintended pregnancies and more abortions," Dr.
David said.
Clinton said she intends to do everything in her power to prevent the president from enacting this rule change.
However, she also said Democrats have to be on guard for more end runs around Congress by the president before he leaves office.
(© MMVIII, CBS Broadcasting Inc.
All Rights Reserved.)
I thought it was a joke at first too...but WOW
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Well, I don't care What the views are of any workers that hospitals and doctors hire, As LONG AS, they keep their views to themselves.
It isn't their place to try to force their views on people coming into hospitals or clinics.
Paintingdanno3
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Sometimes I really do wonder what the world is coming to.
Seems we are regressing
sigh.
Paintingdanno3
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Has anyone found either McCain's or Obama's response to such bill?
I would be very interested to know how they are each weighing in on this...
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Not sure this is the right site, still looking at it.
www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm
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No way this is true.
Just think for a minute...no one can dictate what a woman chooses in the way of birth control.
This is just another outright, outrageous, media-suck hole with no good intention.
And if that were true, there would be another civil war, this time women carrying the guns.
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Please read this again!
they are not saying providers can ONLY hire people with those views
pardon me if this sounds rude but...
DUH
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How can it be legal for any health care provider to deny a woman her legal rights based on their personal beliefs?
KT there is no info anywhere that this is not for real.
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I don't care if they hire people who believe an unmarried woman who is having sex should be stoned to death by her friends and family...as long as they give her her birth control pills.
They can even hire people who think a rape victim should be lashed and imprisoned, just give her the morning-after pill!
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Could it be that the 'haves' have figured out that they will always need peons to clean their homes, paint their walls, service their appliances and take out the trash?
Maybe they don't want all that cheap labor evaporating?
How many kids does Bush have?
I understand that he may not have understood how conception works but all these folks who would deny a woman bc better have about twenty kids of their own.
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Could it be that the 'haves' have figured out that they will always need peons to clean their homes, paint their walls, service their appliances and take out the trash?
Maybe they don't want all that cheap labor evaporating?
GACK!!!
You do have something there!
Poor neglected unwanted children create Govt' Jobs too.
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These issues have been growing more visible in recent years because the fundamentalists have been so comfortable with Bush in the White House.
It is time to get religion out of our government, and the way to do that is to make it an issue in this upcoming elections.
since 9-11 the country has been overwhelmingly concerned with security, now we need to get back to other domestic issues.
And seperation of church and state needs to be in the forefront of our minds.
anyone who wants an indepth take on this should go to samharris.org and read and watch his blogs.
Or read his books, the End of Faith and Letter to a Christan Nation
Life is not about finding yourself!
It's about creating yourself
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