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WTF!! CODE PINK ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT IS HAVING A WITCHES DAY ON FRIDAY!
This is a perfect example of a bogus organization set up to hijack a movement.
Code Pink shows up and protests and harasses Condi and gets in the news then as the next logical step has a Witchcraft day where the supporters are to bring spells and do rituals.
Quote: Code Pink is now resorting to witchcraft to beef up the number of its supporters protesting Berkeley's controversial Marine Corps Recruiting Center.
The women's anti-war group has told ralliers to come equipped with spells and pointy hats Friday for "Witches, clowns and sirens day," the last of the group's week long homage to Mother's Day.
"Women are coming to cast spells and do rituals and to impart wisdom to figure out how we're going to end war," Zanne Sam Joi of Bay Area Code Pink told FOXNews.com.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354400,00.html
You just can't make this stuff up.
This makes the false Christian right who may have become more hateful of the war suddenly rethink because now the people against the war code pink are surely occultists and can't have good intentions so then the war is good.
Its such a mind f*ck and in the end it discredits the whole anti-war movement in one fell sweep.
And for the rest of us who see the big picture we just see the pushing of the occult and how twisted having a witch day to stop war is.
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Code Pink says they support the troops but not the war...so then why all the protesting at recruting stations?
If men and woman want to go sign up to support their country they shouldn't be hindered by a bunch of nuts.
W y to much of the anti-war movement is an anti-military and anti-America movement.
I don't like the war either but there are some distinctions we need to draw.
Good Post Beefcake!
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Ya know, beefcake...
Ya might wanna tone down your anti-witchcraft kick...
A few of the members of this movement aren't all "Christian" god fearing people.
So, they believe differently than, you big deal.
I don't see anything wrong with them, wanting to stage rituals to protest the war.
As long as they mind the rule of three, I don't see anything negative coming out of it.
I'm also, tired of everyone bashing those that don't believe in your "God", so what?
I thought this was a "free" country.
Isn't it? Oh, and freedom of religion, does cover *all* religions, not just your key religion.
My gods, the founding fathers were deists for the most part.
They came here to be free of state-mandated religion.
But, hey, let's shove religion down our children's throats in school.
"Yes! Let's make them read the bible too!" Now, I know that the separation of church and state is valuable.
Even though, I know it's not mentioned anywhere in the Declaration of Independence, Federalist papers, or the Constitution.
It was a statement in a letter Mr.
Jefferson wrote.
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Quote: Its such a mind f*ck and in the end it discredits the whole anti-war movement in one fell sweep.
if people think that the only people who oppose war are practicing witches then they dont have a mind to F*ck.
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Hey I thought this was a free country where if we don't like witchcraft we can talk about it.
I've been reading this stuff all over the board where atheists are trying to tell us to shut up and then go on lauding the values of free speech.
Go ahead and talk about atheism, I don't care!
But people need to stop complaining every time we talk about God or Satan or whatever.
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"Thou believest that there is one God;
Thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." James 2:19 (KJV)
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What if someone believes in Eris?
In the name of Eris, I excommunicate thee!
Now, in the name of Eries, I disexcommunicate thee!
Again, in the name of Eries, I undisexcommunicate thee!
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Religion divides people that's obvious so if you want a united movement stop mentioning it and stick to relevant information.
So many threads are being hijacked these days and it's distracting.
If you want to argue about about religion fine just don't do it here.
Let's stick to what's really important.
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Funny you say that when this very thread is about a religion being used to promote a certain mindset!
Consider also that it is just as easy to ask that certain people stop not mentioning religion.
Ain't freedom great?
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Quote: If you want to argue about about religion fine just don't do it here.First off, I really don't think religion is dividing us.
I've been in plenty of conversations on here with other christians I disagree with, but it's not divisive.
It's only divisive when people cross their arms and won't talk to you anymore because they can't handle an opinion contrary to their own.
Secondly, Alex Jones has recently said that it's christians for the most part that are fighting the NWO, and Alex does cover some christian issues but does try to keep it secular.
But I really don't think he would agree with banning religous issues on this board.
That being said many religious people on this board need to know when to stop arguing.
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I'm talking about the whole forum in general.
I don't come here to be lectured on religion and it's not a free speech issue because it's just not appropriate.
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What's wrong with a Witches day.
I happen to be a Witch!
Is being against the NWO only a Christian interest.
Are you saying that all Pagans want a one world government where big brother can dictate who is god and who isn't.
In your short mindedness you believe that if it isn't Christian it must be of Satan.
Pagans and Witches do not believe in the Devil.
Satan is a Christian concept.
The Universe is made up of both positive and negative energies this is represented as male and female energies Ie: Goddess and God, Yin and yang, Light and Darkness.
The existence of every thing that was, is and will be is made up of these energies.
The very essence of the Goddess/god is radiated in life itself.
Everything that lives is of god!
It takes life to sustain life.
Can one live on consuming rocks?
No one must consume something that contains a life force weather it be plant or animal.
So in essence Paganism and Witchcraft is a celebration of the circle of life that goes on all around us.
They have as many other religions in the past divided up the Universe into different realms each controlled by different gods and Goddesses in an attempt to explain the unknown.
But it all falls back to the "ALL" or source of all life.
Christianity adopted the Jewish one invisible god and placed in it old pagan principles to turn it into the one stop shop.
A Walmart for religion.
A thought that the creator of everything that is, was and will ever be is forced to sacrifice his child oops I forget Jesus is god his self .
That God HAD! to come to earth and sacrifice his self for the sins of man.
Why? isn't he god?
Never mind you belive in what you want.
Just don't tell me who and what to believe in and we will get along just fine.
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Quote: it's not a free speech issue because it's just not appropriate.Oh whatever.
Typical liberal garbage...don't talk about religion because it makes me uncomfortable!
How is this not a free speech issue?
I suppose you are now the master of defining what "appropriate" is.
Quote: Is being against the NWO only a Christian interest.
Are you saying that all Pagans want a one world government where big brother can dictate who is god and who isn't.You can answer this question yourself by actually reading my last post...it contains certain hints as "for the most part"
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I still say we should all be Popes of Discord and leave it at that.
Also, hugs and love.
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Witchcraft. That's freaking hilarious.
Spells and hexes.
Oh, now that's believable.
That's a great way to build believeability and draw the right sorts of people to your antiwar movement.
Sheesh. It's just embarrassing.
And for any who would whine about me knocking witchcraft, go on crying.
I can't hear your over the laughter.
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Some people who post must either be retarded or cointelpro.
The issue isn't whether witchcraft is good or not i don't give a rats ass.
What i'm saying is why in the world would any originization trying to push a cause to a wider audience have a friggin witchraft day its just stupid and polarizing so in essence it either an abject failure or intentional to discredit a movement.
If you want to wear a pointy hat and mix potions and w/e have fun but if you are atheist you shouldn't believe in even witchcraft i though atheists believed in nothing.
Its like goths that walk around in dog collars saying they are different when in fact they are still just sheep of a different belief.
ANYWAY its not important all i know is that this discredits the anti-war movement because most people despite what the thread derailer's " i am an atheists i'm cool " say.
Witchcraft is not normal in the MSM and in fact looks kooky so it fails as an event.
EPIC FAIL!!
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I'm not into witchcaft but living in rural pennsylvania you will find many Hex symbols on barns.
They call this area the hex belt.
When the Germans settled here in the mid 1700's they brought their witchcraft superstitions with them.
People would consult these witches for medical help instead of doctors many times.
There was a famous case in 1929 here where one witch murdered another witch who he believed had put a hex on him and others.
This happened a few miles from where I grew up.
Witchcraft has been practiced in this country for a long time.
here's a link to history of the hex murder.
Pretty interesting.
http://www.rehmeyershollow.com/?TabId=57
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Quote: from: Beefcake on May 09, 2008, 11:21:55 AMSome people who post must either be retarded or cointelpro.
The issue isn't whether witchcraft is good or not i don't give a rats ass.
What i'm saying is why in the world would any originization trying to push a cause to a wider audience have a friggin witchraft day its just stupid and polarizing so in essence it either an abject failure or intentional to discredit a movement.
If you want to wear a pointy hat and mix potions and w/e have fun but if you are atheist you shouldn't believe in even witchcraft i though atheists believed in nothing.
Its like goths that walk around in dog collars saying they are different when in fact they are still just sheep of a different belief.
ANYWAY its not important all i know is that this discredits the anti-war movement because most people despite what the thread derailer's " i am an atheists i'm cool " say.
Witchcraft is not normal in the MSM and in fact looks kooky so it fails as an event.
EPIC FAIL!!
Retarded eh?
Wow, can't win the argument by sticking to the facts so you have to attack the people who mentioned that it shouldn't be an issue.
I don't really care what religion a person is, it looks kooky so it fails as an event huh?
Tell me, how's Butterbean MMA career going?
Talk about a friggin epic failure.
You have a problem with goths?
Sorry, to inform you "beefcake".
But, the goth lifestyle is more of a mindset than just the clothes.
Most people, who wear the dog collars, paint their face up, etc.
Are attention hounds.
Allow the few to speak for the many huh?
Nice, you sound like a christian kool-aid drinker to me.
How about I judge you by Hagee, Benny Hinn, and a few other oh so wonderf**kingful people of that culture?
I'm sure you wouldn't like that.
I'll with hold my judgment of you.
As for it looking kooky to the MSM, should that really matter?
I mean, I'm sure everyone in the MSM thinks Luke Rudowski, Sabrina Rivera, Matt Lapacek, Trevor Lyman, Alex Jones, and Tre all look kooky to them.
So, how about we just give them an "epic fail" too?
You dare to call me cointelpro, you know very little about me.
You have clue what I've seen, where I've been, what I've heard.
But, yet because, I defend my fellow pagans rights to stage an event, I'm labeled as either A.) retarded, or B.) cointelpro.
Now, I suppose you'll throw out the troll card too.
Since, I went on a diatribe to you.
Notice, I didn't denigrate you in my post.
I didn't patronize you either.
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Quote: As for it looking kooky to the MSM, should that really matter?
I mean, I'm sure everyone in the MSM thinks Luke Rudowski, Sabrina Rivera, Matt Lapacek, Trevor Lyman, Alex Jones, and Tre all look kooky to them.
Well it's true that these people could be a little more tactful at times, but it's not quite the same thing as running around in witch outfits casting spells that's kinda creepy.
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Atheism is another control paradigm...
Check the chronicles of history.
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Quote: from: drewt431 on May 09, 2008, 07:34:33 PMWell it's true that these people could be a little more tactful at times, but it's not quite the same thing as running around in witch outfits casting spells that's kinda creepy.
Believing when you eat a cracker you're actually eating the body of Christ isn't creepy?
Drew, how many witches have you met?
Do you honestly, think they run around in pointed hats and run around a big black pot stirring it?
You are close minded.
I don't fit the stereotypical "witch" look.
But, I am yet a witch.
Maybe, we should quit bashing something, and let them do what they want?
I thought, that's what freedom was about?
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Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these;
Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Exo 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
Deu 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
Deu 18:12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD
Cursing is not good, but evil.
What is good is to bless.
We cannot fight evil with evil because the most evil triumph and many of those ruling today are satanists.
Good prevails against all evil.
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Code Pink has always been strange.
Yes they are anti-war, but they are basically socialists, admittedly.
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Quote: Believing when you eat a cracker you're actually eating the body of Christ isn't creepyIn fact, I don't believe that, I'm not Catholic.
Quote: Maybe, we should quit bashing something, and let them do what they want?
I thought, that's what freedom was about?
You really have to try to understand what people are trying to say more.
Yes I have met a witch and am fully aware that they don't run around wearing pointy hats, etc.
And even if they did do that I wouldn't try to stop them...but I still find it creepy.
If you'll notice, my original complaint was not about them wearing hats, but about them protesting recruiting centers.
I am done have this conversation with you, but it has been interesting.
I'm not trying to be insulting, but please try to do more careful reading of what people post.
Drew
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Wow, this thread was a frustrating read.
Code pink, the name, sounds like it was set up to fail from the beginning...
And the spells / costumes at recruiting centers is all useless stuff from the 60's that doesn't get the job done.
The times are too serious now, and we have a much more serious message to present than just general world peace.
The gate is about to slam shut on all of us forever, so leave the costumes at home and just warn as many people as you possibly can ( by talking their language, and behaving as you would at a job interview, or the company luncheon.)
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What a laughable organization.
Sure some of the stuff they do is great and applaudable but come on.
Their shennanagins are meant to discredit the anti-war crowd.
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Quote: from: Garythemessage on May 09, 2008, 11:06:12 AMWitchcraft.
That's freaking hilarious.
Spells and hexes.
Oh, now that's believable.
That's a great way to build believeability and draw the right sorts of people to your antiwar movement.
Sheesh. It's just embarrassing.
And for any who would whine about me knocking witchcraft, go on crying.
I can't hear your over the laughter.
Oh the Trinity!
Thats really believable Man has placed his self higher than god because god had to die so man can live ??
Talk about double think lol
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They also are a feminist organization who is funded by the socialist movement(which is funded by you know who)and code pink funds the IVAW protest group which is also ran by socialists and feminists so the government is funding both sides.
Code Pink also show up to other groups protest's flashing their boobshttp://youtube.com/watch?v=9VDn_TWLIaI.http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush_blog/?p=2773 Now if this ain't controlled opposition I don't know what is!!!
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Freaking finally...
How I hate these narrowminded chats of "I'm right and you're wrong" ..
anyways...
Marc3579 - said something about making kids read bible in school..
My comment: Perhaps reading the bibles DOES belong in school, partly.
It's one of the best places to start questioning what you see/read/hear/get told ..
So as long as it's spun in a way that make's kids question it instead of deny it or give into it, it might be a great educational tool..
NewWorldOrder - said a lot of stuff..
"God had to sacrifice his only child Jesus, oops forgot Jesus IS God"
Comment to that: Get your story straight/figure out how it works before you start rambling or your own words simply go to ensure selfdefeat..
NewWorldOrder - said in another post..
"Is being against the NWO only a Christian interest?"
Comment to that: No, and that was never stated or insinuated.
It was stated that it was MOSTLY Christians who were partaking in the fight (officially, so far, at least).
Garythemessage - said something about witchcraft being rediculous and served selfdefeat (along those lines)
also many others take offense or don't like the witches joining in..
Comment to that: Witches joining in the fight may cause a few people to think that the NWO thus MUST be good (cuz witches in their eyes are evil), but it mostly shows that even the "outsiders" see this (NWO) as a big and imminent problem.
And if you can't/won't listen because of your laughter, you will miss out on any possible valuable comments they may have to offer/contribute with.
Beefcake - said something against the witches as well..
comment to that: Why use witchcraft?
Well, like it or not, that's just how witchy people deal with problems...
and the EPIC FAIL, is that your own post you refer to or the witches?
(rhetorical question)
bennyxbo - said "Spells / costumes at recruiting centers is all useless stuff from the 60's that doesn't get the job done."
Comment to that: Actually they did get quite a bit of attention didn't they..
Perhaps it didn't solve the entire situation (as if it could..) but it did get some attention drawn to the issue..
preid2 - said "The government is funding both sides"
LOL hopefully again their greed will be their downfall....
One can hope..
Finally I'd just like to say that the more useless shit the NWO throws out there to sabotage us that we can debunk and prove as NWO attacks, just goes to fuel our own efforts, / assists our side of the war.
Cheers and and that stuff,
-HiQ
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