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Cyclone Nargis: Devastation in Myanmar - USCHO.com Fan Forum
The reports are starting to come out about the total devastation in Myanmar from this weekend's cyclone.
Cyclone Nargis hit the harbor city of Yangon head on Saturday night.
Yangon is a city of 6 million people.
It was a category 3 cyclone with winds of 150 miles per hour.
The initial death report on Sunday said 200 people had died.
But, now reports are coming out that 10,000 have died, and some disease experts and aid workers are estimating that the death toll could rise to a staggering 200,000.
http://climate.the-environmentalist....tastrophe.html
This is a part of the world that most people don't even know exists, but this is an epic human tragedy and due to the ultra-repressive nature of the military dictatorship in Myanmar we are barely hearing about it.
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Whoa... those are staggering numbers...
I wonder how they'll change over the next few days.
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Quote: : This is a part of the world that most people don't even know exists, but this is an epic human tragedy and due to the ultra-repressive nature of the military dictatorship in Myanmar we are barely hearing about it.
China - to name another - has had a history of pathologically denying industrial/environmental disasters, but this is on a whole other level.
If Milosovic can be tried for genocide, how about knowing (if they did know) and not telling your citizens this thing is barreling their way?
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It also makes me wonder whether the dictatorship will accept outside help.
If they truly did lose 200,000 people, Myanmar stands to likely lose another 200,000 to disease and lack of food/shelter/clean water.
Edit to amherstblackbear: Even if they were completely forthcoming about the cyclone, there would be no possible way to evacuate all their residents in time.
It's not like here, where you could hop in your car and take the interstate to your cousin's house...
There's no transportation net to speak of.
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The Irrawaddy River delta is one of the great rice producing regions of the world, and the people lost an entire crop over the weekend, so mass starvation is also a very real possibility.
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Funny how no one seems to give a **** about this in the USA.
Unless you listen to NPR.
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Has anyone heard from J.
Peterman yet?
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I heard about this cyclone hitting Myanmar and I thought about an old roommate I had once who was from like a suburb of Yangoon if I remember correctly.
Never really cared for him a lot.
I'm kinda surprised he managed to pass the test that shows you know enough english to be able to learn about stuff in it.
That and he often smelled a lot because he rarely washed his long johns, which he was rarely out of because he wasn't used to the cold michigan climate.
Not all that sure he bathed daily either.
And he stunk up the apartment cooking up his fried dried fish.
I do kinda think some of it was he was just suffering from Cabin Fever, being all cooped up in the Apartment a lot, however, I lost whatever sympathy for him one morning during spring break when my GF at the time was up there with me and he cocked-blocked me right about as we were about to get busy again.
It was around then I started watching CSI more and taking notes, and talking it over with my other roommate about whether or not it would be worth it to somehow bump him off without getting caught so that we would get all A's on the semester.
Wonder how the bugger is doing.
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Quote: : The reports are starting to come out about the total devastation in Myanmar from this weekend's cyclone.
Cyclone Nargis hit the harbor city of Yangon head on Saturday night.
Yangon is a city of 6 million people.
It was a category 3 cyclone with winds of 150 miles per hour.
The initial death report on Sunday said 200 people had died.
But, now reports are coming out that 10,000 have died, and some disease experts and aid workers are estimating that the death toll could rise to a staggering 200,000.
http://climate.the-environmentalist....tastrophe.html
This is a part of the world that most people don't even know exists, but this is an epic human tragedy and due to the ultra-repressive nature of the military dictatorship in Myanmar we are barely hearing about it.
I've been following the storm since it started forming in the Indian ocean and it never reached winds of 150 mph.
Category 3 only goes to 130 mph.
And if you got your info from CNN, it's not all correct.
The winds weren't the reason the death toll is so high, it's because of the storm surge and the flooding.
A 20ft storm surge plowed through the region and many of those people drowned.
This may or may not be the worst that Myanmar has seen, but it is up there.
And I just read that Laura Bush is blasting their government over warning the people, which could be legit if not for the fact that our own country can't get relief to its own people after a hurricane.
We have a bunch of hypocrites that run our country (or have influence in it).
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Although the regime there said it would accept outside assistance, it sounds like they are dragging their feet.
I read a report that U.N.
Workers were being denied entry because their visa applications hadn't been processed by the Myanmar government.
Who knows, maybe this tragedy will result in some opening up of the country?
One can hope.
The latest report I saw was that 22,000 are dead and a further 41,000 missing.
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22,000 dead and 41,000 missing were the numbers Quote: d on NPR this morning.
That's staggering.
BBC was reporting on this very early in the storm, and they seemed to believe it was going to be a disaster of epic proportions well before anyone else.
However, The Weather Channel was also issuing periodic updates on it as well.
The EU has agreed to $3 million in assistance, because the EU has diplomatic relations with Myanmar.
I heard there is an assistance bill afoot here as well, but didn't catch how much was being proposed.
While we don't have good diplomatic relations with Myanmar, emergency aid in times of natural disaster should know no politics.
But that said, I agree with Chickens@NU, that we do need to pay attention to our own disasters as well.
Did anyone else hear the story about the contractor in New Orleans rebuilding levees who was stuffing them full of shredded newspaper instead of shredded rubber, to save money?
And how fair is it that some tornado victims can't get federal assistance because the damage doesn't add up to a certain dollar figure?
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Quote: : Gray Although the regime there said it would accept outside assistance, it sounds like they are dragging their feet.
I read a report that U.N.
Workers were being denied entry because their visa applications hadn't been processed by the Myanmar government.
Who knows, maybe this tragedy will result in some opening up of the country?
One can hope.
The latest report I saw was that 22,000 are dead and a further 41,000 missing.
It wouldn't surprize me if the Junta is just dragging their feet just to let more people that oppose the Junta's rule to just die off.
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Al Gore says cyclone caused by global warming
That didn't take long
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Quote: : I've been following the storm since it started forming in the Indian ocean and it never reached winds of 150 mph.
Category 3 only goes to 130 mph.
And if you got your info from CNN, it's not all correct.
The winds weren't the reason the death toll is so high, it's because of the storm surge and the flooding.
A 20ft storm surge plowed through the region and many of those people drowned.
This may or may not be the worst that Myanmar has seen, but it is up there.
I live 50 yards from the Gulf of Mexico and was less than a mile from Ivan's landfall, I'm well aquainted with the effects of storm surge.
I evacuated to a friend's house off the island a few miles to the north, but the night Ivan came ashore was still the most terrifying night of my life.
The people of Myanmar who experienced that have my prayers.
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Myanmar junta seizes aid supplies, "not ready" to let in aid workers
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Just said that the idiots there couldn't even distribute those supplies even if they wanted to.
Like I said, the Junta probably wants the people to die just so that they can stay in power.
Anybody else think that might come back to bite them in the *** in a few years when things get back to normal there?
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Asia Times Online (Bangkok): The case for invading Myanmar
Christian Science Monitor: Burma (Myanmar) aid logjam riles donors
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Quote: : Just said that the idiots there couldn't even distribute those supplies even if they wanted to.
Like I said, the Junta probably wants the people to die just so that they can stay in power.
Anybody else think that might come back to bite them in the *** in a few years when things get back to normal there?
They're doing something even worse: taking the already donated aid supplies and writing their own names on them, distributing them as propaganda.
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Quote: : They're doing something even worse: taking the already donated aid supplies and writing their own names on them, distributing them as propaganda.
Man, they are really working hard to make Katrina look like a well thought out rescue and recovery effort.
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Quote: : They're doing something even worse: taking the already donated aid supplies and writing their own names on them, distributing them as propaganda.
Not only that, but they're keeping some of the food for themselves, and have been accused of selling donated supplied.
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